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Re: Keeping Larry Amused
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Thu, 27 Jan 2000 18:27:09 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Franks writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
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> > > if Libertopia, (or any other society?) allows completely free
> > > immigration, there will be costs that it's not clear who has to bear,
> > > hence the statement that everyone has to be responsible for their
> > > actions may fail because some consequences happen with no clear idea of
> > > who caused them or who to go after to recover costs from..."
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> > Very good! I must not be such a great wiggler after all. You have in your
> > arguments have clearly said I am responsible for someone else that I haven't
> > accepted responsiblity for.
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> Maybe in the example of the toppling stiff, the responsibility is an assumed • or
> implied responsibility that comes with owning land or property? As opposed to
> a direct responsibility such as that of your children etc.
Toppling stiff? I don't know why, but that phrase gives me the giggles. I
love it. "Dear, there's another toppling stiff out by the jacaranda. Do you
think you could pop out and clean things up a bit before the Burgess's arrive?
That's a love."
Actually, it doesn't matter if the landowner has to pay for the TS (toppling
stiff), or the toll-walkway, or the insurance company. The point really is
that SOMEBODY has to pick up the bill other than the TS. There's a cost to
society (as an individual or group).
> > > Too bad really, their loss, but it's not my
> > > personal mandate to bring horses to water, much less get them to drink
> > > if they're too stupid to. I have other windmills that interest me more.
> >
> > Agreed. But then, since the Libertarian party has gone nowhere for quite a
> > long time, I don't really need to. :-)
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> Bruce, I know that you didn't start it, but maybe accepting that not making
> personal jibes can help make you a better person(1), will enable you to ignore
> the ones you recieve? You have some interesting points, but don't let others
> distract you from them by their point-scoring attempts.
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> Richard
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> 1 - Value judgement, but that's not the crux
Ooooooooo, I hate it when you are right. :-)
Bruce
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| (...) I agree there's a cost to someone. I just don't see it as a cost to "society". Some one entity or group of entities is going to be, bad luck for them, stuck with it. If this is what the entire anti immigration argument boils down to, I (...) (25 years ago, 27-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) When you put it that way it gives me the giggles too :) (...) Me too, and one day I might actually be right, and then where will we be? (1) Richard 1 - Fear. (25 years ago, 27-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Maybe in the example of the toppling stiff, the responsibility is an assumed or implied responsibility that comes with owning land or property? As opposed to a direct responsibility such as that of your children etc. (...) Bruce, I know that (...) (25 years ago, 27-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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