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Re: Libertarian stuff (Was: Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?])
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Wed, 12 Jan 2000 23:28:45 GMT
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Richard Franks wrote in message ...
> > I see evidence that people do, and with a
> > system which actually rewards teachers (I think teachers pay is going to
> > rise dramatically in Liberatopia), I expect a LOT more teachers to care.
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> Sadly, as the wages go up, teachers who care less will be attracted the the
> profession. Not that teachers shouldn't be paid more, it's just a problem • to
> keep in mind I guess!
Your posts are moving from annoying to hilarious. What have we got now?
Teachers who could care less! Why? I care about kids, and I know most
people do. I know most people can't live off a teacher's wages the way
they'd like to (well that definitely applies to me anyway).
> > There will be some kind of correctional system, funded by fees to
> > property owners who wish to keep the crooks of the street at worst. In
> > order for this correctional system to operate the most efficiently, it
> > must do more than simply warehouse the crooks. It will (over the long
> > term) find the most cost effective amount of education to give to
> > produce the most income from the crooks. Those crooks who are not
> > "lifers" will leave with a usefull skill, and in many cases will have
> > paid off any financial debt they owe.
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> Has anyone ever sat down and calculated the number and extent of • third-party
> fees? I mean, would people rather pay 100+ bills per month, or would they • just
> organise a monthly lump payment. And then, isn't that just a customised
tax?
I guess you could look at it that way. But here are the advantages:
You can choose who you buy your service from.
The competition causes you to pay less.
You pay the actual cost instead of some arbitrary number.
If its too much for you, you can choose another provider (for whichever
service) or you can always move.
And here are the disadvantages:
> Things like security would have to be financed by *everyone* in the street, • so
> some of these taxes would stop being optional?
If you mean social security, it would fall under insurance, as would
unemployment. Insurance companies, being both accountable for their actions
and competitive would be much for useful and affordable than they are today.
If you mean security, as in police protection, this is one of the few
things that is within the proper scope of the government. It supports
itself the way it does now, through court costs, bribery, whoops, just
kidding. The user fees are paid by those who break the law and "use" the
courts and jails - the criminals, otherwise they can't eat. NSTAAFL
> Also, as each of these individual services is a profit-making company • trying to
> compete (and spending millions on advertising doing so), then is there much
> reason to believe that the total would be much less, if not more?
If they want to stay in business they will have to remain affordable, or
else lose all there revenue to competitors. For you, if you make $30,000 a
year, these actual costs added all together might be more. For an
entrepreneur or someone like Bill Gates these costs would be a fraction of
what they are currently paying. I think you believe you have a right to
some of Bill Gates money because he is so successful. Or that you have a
right to mine. I don't believe that, myself. In fact, I don't think that
encourages success, at all. Just think, though, if your making $30,000 now,
and you actually work for it, you'll probably make quite a bit more in a
Libertarian society.
> Richard
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Have fun!
John
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