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Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?]
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Tue, 11 Jan 2000 06:44:08 GMT
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Richard Franks wrote:

> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Kevin Salm writes:
> > Hear, Hear!!!   Time to vote.  Who is in favor of un-funding all federal art
> > subsidies??  It sure gets my vote.  I prefer starving artists who have to work
> > a little bit at their trade and thus, create much better art.
> 
> I disagree with the sentiment that suffering creates better art, or that worthy
> art can only be created by those willing to suffer a bit for it.
> 
> Are some of the amazing LEGO creations and sculptures on LUGNET not examples of
> worthy art created without pain or suffering? (1)

Not bloody likely--I can't tell you how many times I've hurt myself separating
large plates.

> > If private individuals wish to contribute to artists I have no complaint but
> > when taxpayers are forced to pay for art and artists that may be
> > undeserving then it is time to stop the liberal, beauracratic money train
> > before it can leave the (metro)station.
> 
> My point is - why pick on art when there are many more possibilities for
> saving money, many of which don't give as much pleasure as art can?
> 
> I also find it peculiar that a country in economic boom should feel beligerent
> towards art in this way.

When conditions are relatively good, we go after that which unsettles us.  It's
natural, and art funding believes in a certain amount of liberal humanism, so it's
an easy target.  Here's a Handy Home Experiment:  Submit an FOIA request (of low
security clearance, naturally) to both the DoD and the NEA, and see who's more
forthcoming.  Time to disband the standing military; unproductive laborers all!

> If you were arguing that the money could be used for education or to fight
> against poverty, then I might agree with you.. as it is then a question of
> priorities. If it's a question of keeping art subsidies or paying less tax (34
> cents per person?) then I vote for art, but by all means employ good art
> commisioners!

See above--they do.  But every human endeavour is fallible, so...

> (1) Lack of b---k s--------s and juniorisation excepted [deletions mine]

*smack* You said it!  *That which cannot be named*!  ;)

best,

LFB



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(...) I disagree with the sentiment that suffering creates better art, or that worthy art can only be created by those willing to suffer a bit for it. Are some of the amazing LEGO creations and sculptures on LUGNET not examples of worthy art created (...) (27 years ago, 6-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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