 | | Re: Goodness of Man? (was: Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | <38741B0A.4F62FC4B@c...anweb.net> <slrn879752.341.matt...ia.bu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (...) Yes. Unless you're a big fan of "the ends justify the means". Good outcomes do not justify (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: Goodness of Man? (was: Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party —Matthew Miller
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| | | | | (...) I'm not saying anything about justifying anything. "Ends justify the means" implies some sort of need for justificiation, and as I said, I'm assuming neither a totally evil government nor totally evil capitalists. (...) Not true. They may not (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: Goodness of Man? (was: Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party —Jasper Janssen
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| | | | | (...) "utilitarian" == "ends justify the means", no? Jasper (25 years ago, 6-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: Goodness of Man? (was: Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | (...) Yes. And I proceeded to tersly show that even if you buy ends justify the means you still fail, because you get bad ends. all government programs produce bad results is my utilitarian thesis. So I have him both ways. (25 years ago, 6-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Goodness of Man? (was: Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party —Jasper Janssen
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| | | | (...) So if you don't buy utilitarianism, why the hell do you keep using it in your arguments? Jasper (25 years ago, 7-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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