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Re: Goodness of Man? (was: Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Thu, 6 Jan 2000 14:41:07 GMT
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mattdm@mattdm.orgSAYNOTOSPAM
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Larry Pieniazek <lar@voyager.net> wrote:
> Yes. Unless you're a big fan of "the ends justify the means". Good
> outcomes do not justify pernicious mechanisms for achieving them.
I'm not saying anything about justifying anything. "Ends justify the means"
implies some sort of need for justificiation, and as I said, I'm assuming
neither a totally evil government nor totally evil capitalists.
> But from a utilitarian argument, government programs just don't work,
Not true. They may not work as well as some other system might, but they
certainly work to some degree. Otherwise, our country -- certainly currently
involving a lot of government programs, like it or not -- would have
collapsed a long time ago, yeah? Government food programs _do_ feed some
starving people. Government highways do get some people from place to place.
Government policing force does something to help maintain order. They
_work_, even if there is an ideal situation which may be better.
> and from a rights based argument, they are evil usurpations of private
> property.
From _some_ rights based arguments. I'll get into this in a seperate post.
--
Matthew Miller ---> mattdm@mattdm.org
Quotes 'R' Us ---> http://quotes-r-us.org/
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