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Re: Goodness of Man? (was: Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Sat, 1 Jan 2000 20:31:38 GMT
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JOHNNEAL@stopspamUSWEST.NET
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John DiRienzo wrote:
> Jasper Janssen wrote in message <38830931.919200318@lugnet.com>...
> > On Fri, 31 Dec 1999 19:30:52 GMT, John Neal <johnneal@uswest.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I hope it does. It seems to be a more mature (in terms of societal • evolution)
> > > system of government. Anarchy would be the most mature, IMO.
> >
> > Either you're nuts, or you havent read your history books.
> >
> > Remember what Europe was like when anarchy ruled? Think medieval times
> > in between Charlemagne, William the Conqueror, etc.. It was _not_ fun.
> > Even less so than with great dictators.
> >
> > A societal system needs to be stable to survive. Anarchy is not
> > statically stable, but it's also not even dynamically stable.
> >
> > Jasper
>
> I had to think about what John said for a day or two to know what he
> meant. I am still not sure if I took it the right way, but I don't think he
> is nuts. I think he is saying (and I would agree, if he is) that the
> society that could function properly without any form of government would
> consist of the most evolved people possible (his words were "most mature in
> terms of societal evolution"). In a way, he is saying (well, I am, anyway)
> that once human beings (as a society) become fully evolved, there will be no
> need for any government whatsoever.
You are correct, John.
> I don't believe people are anywhere
> near (and have no way of knowing if they could ever reach) that state of
> evolution. I tend to believe anarchy will never work, because although
> humans will always evolve,
Never say never(;), but I'm with you in thinking that we as a race aren't
anywhere near that state.
> I doubt they will actually evolve to perfection -
> I see that as similar to counting to infiniti.
I believe that existence after death will be on a higher plane, although I know
not how or even care really. What matters is the here and now and making this
existence the best it can be for everyone.
-John
>
> --
> Have fun!
> John
> The Legos you've been dreaming of...
> http://www114.pair.com/ig88/lego
> my weird Lego site:
> http://www114.pair.com/ig88/
>
> "Censorship is yet another tool in the dumbing-down of America
> by a power structure that relies on a populace too lazy or ignorant
> to think independently." -Vanessa McGrady
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