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Re: Goodness of Man? (was: Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
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Sat, 1 Jan 2000 19:20:13 GMT
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Jasper Janssen wrote in message <38850a4f.919486838@lugnet.com>...
> On Fri, 31 Dec 1999 19:21:12 GMT, John Neal <johnneal@uswest.net>
> wrote:
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> > Well, that's my point. I'm saying that good is beyond what the particular • fancy of a
> > given society says it is. We are not the author of good, we are the • seekers of it
> > (hopefully).
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> Which means that there is no meaningful definition of good at all.
> That's not very useful either.
I take back what I said. I think Larry could tell you his objective
definition of good, which I agree with. I will try myself. Life-affirming
= good. Perhaps God has a better definition of good than that, but I
haven't heard from him.
> > > planet. Until the Y2K bug killed it off, of course.
> >
> > We'll soon see about that;-)
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> <antagonist>Drat. It was a dud. Well, I'll try again in 100 years.
> </antagonist>
Ahh, damn the bad luck!
> > All of these examples, of course, are examples of evil.
> > I don't know who you mean by _we_; I stated that *only* God is good. • Seems you are
> > helping me prove my point.
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> If God is good, why has he never deigned to touch the world?
I guess he could not create other gods (weird, since he is omnipotent and
all - maybe he just doesn't want the competition; he likes his monopoly!),
so he created lesser beings. He lets us know pain, so that we might know
pleasure. He lets us sin, so that we may know his mercy. (a little
plagiarized, sorry Bill). Perhaps we are an ant farm and he wants to see
what we do with the tools he has given us.
> > The world is a harsh place mostly because bad people don't know how to • exist
> > *meaningfully*. They haven't figured out what it's all about, and so they • bungle
> > through life reeking chaos. People need guidance, and not the blind • leading the blind
> > kind, but the divine kind.
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> But since there is no divine guidance, only the
> blind-leading-the-blind kind, what exactly are we supposed to do?
Seek divine guidance? Seek inner truth? Seek Good? Seek Perfection?
Not everyone is blind, and not everyone has to agree. It would be a lot
easier, if He exists, if He just told us what to do (and maybe he does, but
we're deaf). But like life is not fair and is harsh, it is also not easy.
> Jasper
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John
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