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Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
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Thu, 30 Dec 1999 16:09:34 GMT
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On Thu, 30 Dec 1999 14:44:29 GMT, Larry Pieniazek <lar@voyager.net>
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> However, I can honestly say that I never swiped anything. And as for
> drugs, which you didn't ask, I freely admit that I've used them. The law
Which I didn't ask because I don't think they're relevant. I agree
with you.
I wouldn't mind too much, personally, if there were at least legal
ways to get the stuff under medical prescription. AT least that would
be a step in the right direction?
> is wrong and must be changed. 'Dubya is saying that he supports the law
> but it doesn't apply to him because he was a kid at the time and didn't
> get caught. Hypocrisy.
Dubya? Never heard of the man. Not that I want to.
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> > The point isn't that it wasn't _wrong_, it's that after <mumble>
> > years, there is a good chance $PERSON has changed his ways for the
> > better. If not, convict on more recent crimes.
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> It is NOT ok to break the law and get away with it, no matter how young
> you are at the time, and then say, well I was young then. You gotta
I didn't say it was. I thought you were saying the statute of
limitations, as a concept, was wrong.
> follow it up with "and I was wrong and here's what I am going to do
> about it" not "it was youthful exuberance, everyone did it..."
So _what_ exactly, _is_ someone supposed to do about doing drugs
decades ago? Try and puke it up?
> > And the justice system is all about trying to prevent people from
> > being criminals, right? <snort>
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> Well, it ought to be about encouraging people to make good choices, and
That's what I said.
> about protecting the rights of the innocent (victims AND accused). And
> about making criminals suffer the consequences of their choices and
> about making it up to the victims if possible. At least that's what the
> libertarian view of the proper function of the justice system is.
To tell you the truth, the whole "making it up to the victims" bit is
what creeps me out. I mean, give back $STUFF you've stolen, sure. But
the common type of interpretation like "$VICTIM has suffered
irreparable mental damage from this mugging, so she should be allowed
to kick $MUGGER in the goolies", things like that.
I still have this weird thing about faith in mankind, etc.etc., and
the ability to change, which is why I believe the whole limitations,
statute of, thing is a good thing.
> Forgiven, but not forgotten, I'll be needing to use it against you later
> :-)...
Uh, oh.
> OK, veils down, I knew you'd fall into the trap I set... :-) and you
> did. You're SO predictable. I like that.
How else could I respond? I don't even know the _names_ of most of
whoever you _were_ alluding to, let alone their actions.
It's not like the _specifics_ of US politics are that interesting and
relevant to me. Generalities, yeah, sure, but not the specifics.
Jasper
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| (...) If they are not involved in any control of drugs (for example not a politician, cop, or parent), and they aren't still doing drugs, nothing other than perhaps acknowledge that yes, they did do drugs . If they are a parent trying to keep their (...) (25 years ago, 30-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
| | | Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
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| (...) " 'Dubya " is a nickname I've heard used for George W. Bush. Say his middle initial slowly, and put a little Texas drawl into it and "double U" mutates into "dubya". I think it may actually have been Gary Trudeau (Doonsbury author) that coined (...) (25 years ago, 30-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
| | | Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
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| Jasper Janssen wrote in message <38728079.753103163@...et.com>... (...) Wish I could say that! Well, I've paid for my previous misteaks, and its a whole new millenium, almost. (...) Me too. (...) Well, there are legal ways, and it seems like a step (...) (25 years ago, 31-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) I'm not running for office. <crowd sounds of huge sigh of relief> Not the same standards of behaviour. However, I can honestly say that I never swiped anything. And as for drugs, which you didn't ask, I freely admit that I've used them. The (...) (25 years ago, 30-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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