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Re: Arkham Asylum - A cool set, but a bit disturbing.
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Sat, 9 Jun 2007 19:47:38 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Timothy Gould wrote:
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Crossing between reality and fiction, I’ve never been able to reconcile
this--I saw Star Wars when I was 10. Darth was tall, black and evil--he
kills people by crushing their necks and he blows up planets. And then in
‘Return of the Jedi’, I’m suppose to feel sympathy for him ‘cause he saves
his kid and, in the process dies himself? Futhermore, what are we to think
of regarding ‘cute little Anakin’ in Episode 1 of Star Wars? Here he’s all
cute and worried about mommy and the like, when we, the viewers, *know*
he’s going to grow up and become Darth Vader--killer of people and planets.
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This is precisely the crap that the liberal minds likes to project--
confusing the lines between good and evil to the point where the two are
barely distinguishable.
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No, that’s just reality. It’s just that liberal minds take a bit more effort
to take it into consideration.
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Maybe. But you have to consider the possibility that there is a good chance
that these criminals will strike again, with a less than favorable outcome
for the innocent.
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Does that mean you support Court by vigilante and death penalty for thievery?
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Okay, I take it now that we have dispensed fantasy and are now dealing with real
life situations. Vigilantism isn’t ideal, because there isn’t a standard--
that, of course, is the beauty of Law. The problem comes when the law fails to
bring about justice. Put it this way: I am more sympathetic to a murderer who
kills in cold blood the murderer of his young daughter who has gotten off in a
court of law on some technicality.
As for theives: no death penalty; the cutting off of their hands will suffice;-)
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Do you really think it’s up to the homeowner to decide that the person
stealing their tv is going to come back and do it again, next time using
violence, and should be killed to prevent that from happening? Sounds like
presentience to me which is beyond the mortal ken.
In my books if you kill someone who is not directly threatening someone else
you are a murderer and you are ‘evil’. I don’t care if that person has just
stolen your tv or not. Even the rather bloodthirsty Old Testament said an
‘eye for an eye’ rather than ‘a life for a stereo’.
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I wouldn’t advocate the intentional attempt to kill a fleeing thief. How do
you feel about shootinging with the intent to wound? Guns are all we really
have now to stop thieves, and they are crude and don’t do what we necessarily
what them to do, but I’m sure that soon we will have weapons which will be able
to incapacitate without lethal force. I believe a citizen has every right to
zap a fleeing thief.
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Of course the world is gray and nobody’s perfect; but that doesn’t mean our
standards should be gray. We should always be striving for white, which,
in part, means eschewing black. We cannot cross a divide while still
keeping a foot on both sides.
I am questioning those whose intent isn’t to strive for good, but to
explore and dwell in black. These are the people who make the world worse
for everyone else. Good people are respectful, kind, and have genuine
regard for others. Bad people don’t; they are basically selfish. And I’d go
so far as to say that good people are happy people, and selfish people
aren’t. That may seem simplistic, but not everything is rocket science:-)
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How do you deal with people who are good, respectful, kind and have a genuine
regard for others but do thinks which you consider to be immoral?
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They can think whatever they want! I don’t care.
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What about
those who do what a lot of people consider immoral, what about those who do
what a lot of people think is moral and a larger number of people thinks is
immoral?
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If those actions infringe on the rights of others, then they should be stopped.
It doesn’t matter how many people believe anything. If freedoms are abridged,
then that is when action needs to occur (and what governments are for).
JOHN
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