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Re: Arkham Asylum - A cool set, but a bit disturbing.
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Thu, 7 Jun 2007 13:37:38 GMT
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In lugnet.licensed.batman, Mark Larson wrote:
   In lugnet.licensed.batman, Richie Dulin wrote:
   But then I saw this picture:

I know Arkham Asylum isn’t a standard mental health care facility by any reasonable measure, but the attic torture room seems to be a bit much. In fact, the guards getting the whip and the chainsaw ready, while the Riddler lies helplessly on the electroshock table, reminds me of some of the Abu Graib pictures.

Concernedly,

Richie Dulin

This is an alarmist over-reaction, in my opinion. No offense, I believe everyone is entitled to their opinion, but you broached the subject and here’s my opinion.

You seem to be implying that LEGO either is insensitive to the Abu Ghraib controversy or is purposely making fun of it. Do you really think that’s true? Abu Ghraib is a mess of complex political and military controversies, the Arkham Asylum is a place where they hold Super Villians.

If LEGO had released a US military base and there were a torture chamber in it, I’d think there was a big problem. This set is from a comic book where very dark things happen. What did you expect them to have in the Arkham Asylum, a community room with checkers and snacks?

OK. I’m with you to here. Not sure I entirely agree but it’s all reasonable.

   I also think it is terribly irresponsible to throw about accusations so casually. Last year Denmark took some harsh reactions to a cartoonist and were viewed as insensitive to Muslims, people burning LEGO in the streets. I think you should think more carefully about what you say before you say it because the implications you are making can be taken very seriously.

Here you kick into what I consider to be an alarmist over-reaction yourself. Do you really think that a comment on a LEGO forum read by a small number of people is comparable to a cartoon published in a newspaper (and then many newspapers) which specifically offended certain aspects of a religion at a time of already heightened tensions?

   Like everyone who responded I am trying to continue a respectable discussion. My opinion however is strong on this one. I am simply tired of people finding offense in everything and am upset to see it happen to my favorite toy...I mean: artistic medium.

I agree. But I’m not sure being equally alarmist about the offense is a good way to deal with it.

Tim



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  Re: Arkham Asylum - A cool set, but a bit disturbing.
 
(...) Hi Tim! I'd rather be talking with you about MOCs, but what can you do, right? Anyway, I'm sure the cartoonist who started that particular controversy thought the same thing. Words affect things, people read stuff. I don't think it's an (...) (17 years ago, 7-Jun-07, to lugnet.licensed.batman, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)

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  Re: Arkham Asylum - A cool set, but a bit disturbing.
 
(...) This is an alarmist over-reaction, in my opinion. No offense, I believe everyone is entitled to their opinion, but you broached the subject and here's my opinion. You seem to be implying that LEGO either is insensitive to the Abu Ghraib (...) (17 years ago, 7-Jun-07, to lugnet.licensed.batman, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX) ! 

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