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    Re: Rückkehr der Raumnazin —John Neal
   (...) I was speaking specifically about the people who are incarcerated. The purpose of their detention is what they've done, not what they believe (although it is the motivation behind what they did). So my point was that we do not simply detain (...) (18 years ago, 2-Jan-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
   
        Re: Rückkehr der Raumnazin —Dave Schuler
   (...) But that's the whole problem. The only evidence we have that these detainees are terrorists is, basically, Dubya's assertion that they're terrorists. They're denied all due process and access to lawyers, and in many cases they've been held for (...) (18 years ago, 2-Jan-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
   
        Re: Rückkehr der Raumnazin —John Neal
   (...) Enemy combatants are treated differently than US citizens. This has always been the case. (...) Well, if you had Christian leaders invecting from the pulpit to incarcerate Muslims, I might be inclined to agree (which is the analogy to Mullahs (...) (18 years ago, 2-Jan-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
   
        Re: Rückkehr der Raumnazin —Dave Schuler
   (...) In fact, this has only "always" been the case since Dubya created the term "enemy combatant" out of the firmament. It didn't exist prior to his declaration of permanent war on terror, at least not as a supra-legal designator for "people whom (...) (18 years ago, 3-Jan-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 

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