 | | Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz —Bruce Hietbrink
| | | | (...) Samuel Morrison wrote: (...) Lenny wrote: (...) I would actually disagree. Sorry to go off on a theological tangent here, but I believe that no human does evil for the sake of evil (does Satan? hmm, still not sure), but rather for the sake of (...) (19 years ago, 9-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
| | | | | | | | | | The Basis of Nazism, was Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz —Leonard Hoffman
| | | | | (...) This is an interesting point of view here Bruce. Although I am not religious and I don't see things in terms of good/evil and sin. Nazism being based on hate is not doing evil for evil's sake. Within your metaphor, the hate of Nazism is to (...) (19 years ago, 10-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: The Basis of Nazism, was Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz —John Neal
| | | | | (...) Hmmm, now that is an interesting take. Care to expound? JOHN (19 years ago, 10-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: The Basis of Nazism, was Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz —Dave Schuler
| | | | | | (...) How about this: I love cheesecake, but after I eat an entire one in a single sitting, my love is perverted into hate. Somehow I think that Mr. Hoffman was driving at a different point, though... Dave! (19 years ago, 10-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: The Basis of Nazism, was Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz —John Neal
| | | | | | | (...) Ah, but at whom is the hate directed? The cheesecake (which you love), or yourself (for spoiling the wonderful love relationship between you and the cheesecake), or God, who created such a perfect confection that, inexplicably, is not good for (...) (19 years ago, 10-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: The Basis of Nazism, was Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz —Dave Schuler
| | | | | | | (...) I think it's a cross between hatred of the cheesecake "O, confection! What hast thou wrought upon my stomach!" and self-hatred "O, weak man! What hast thou wrought upon thyself?" Either way, it descends from the initial love. (...) WHY DON'T (...) (19 years ago, 10-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: The Basis of Nazism, was Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz —Leonard Hoffman
| | | | | (...) There is an old saying that I enjoy: "The opposite of love is not hate, it is apathy." What love and hate have in common is that are a deeply passionate caring about someone else. "Caring" in the sense of concern/wonder about what happens to (...) (19 years ago, 10-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: The Basis of Nazism, was Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz —John Neal
| | | | | (...) Hmmm. You say that love and hate are not opposites, but isn't that exactly what "passionate-"positive" (love) to passionate-"negative" (hate)" is? The opposite of apathy would be passion, not hatred, in my view. If something has an opposite, (...) (19 years ago, 11-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
| | | | | | |
