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    Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz —Bruce Hietbrink
   (...) Samuel Morrison wrote: (...) Lenny wrote: (...) I would actually disagree. Sorry to go off on a theological tangent here, but I believe that no human does evil for the sake of evil (does Satan? hmm, still not sure), but rather for the sake of (...) (19 years ago, 9-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
   
        The Basis of Nazism, was Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz —Leonard Hoffman
   (...) This is an interesting point of view here Bruce. Although I am not religious and I don't see things in terms of good/evil and sin. Nazism being based on hate is not doing evil for evil's sake. Within your metaphor, the hate of Nazism is to (...) (19 years ago, 10-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
   
        Re: The Basis of Nazism, was Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz —John Neal
   (...) Hmmm, now that is an interesting take. Care to expound? JOHN (19 years ago, 10-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
   
        Re: The Basis of Nazism, was Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz —Dave Schuler
     (...) How about this: I love cheesecake, but after I eat an entire one in a single sitting, my love is perverted into hate. Somehow I think that Mr. Hoffman was driving at a different point, though... Dave! (19 years ago, 10-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
    
         Re: The Basis of Nazism, was Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz —John Neal
     (...) Ah, but at whom is the hate directed? The cheesecake (which you love), or yourself (for spoiling the wonderful love relationship between you and the cheesecake), or God, who created such a perfect confection that, inexplicably, is not good for (...) (19 years ago, 10-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
    
         Re: The Basis of Nazism, was Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz —Dave Schuler
     (...) I think it's a cross between hatred of the cheesecake "O, confection! What hast thou wrought upon my stomach!" and self-hatred "O, weak man! What hast thou wrought upon thyself?" Either way, it descends from the initial love. (...) WHY DON'T (...) (19 years ago, 10-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
   
        Re: The Basis of Nazism, was Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz —Leonard Hoffman
   (...) There is an old saying that I enjoy: "The opposite of love is not hate, it is apathy." What love and hate have in common is that are a deeply passionate caring about someone else. "Caring" in the sense of concern/wonder about what happens to (...) (19 years ago, 10-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
   
        Re: The Basis of Nazism, was Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz —John Neal
   (...) Hmmm. You say that love and hate are not opposites, but isn't that exactly what "passionate-"positive" (love) to passionate-"negative" (hate)" is? The opposite of apathy would be passion, not hatred, in my view. If something has an opposite, (...) (19 years ago, 11-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 

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