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Subject:	Re: Atheism (was: Santorum Fails In His Effort To Pervert The Constitution)
Newsgroups:	lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date:	Wed, 18 Aug 2004 02:06:30 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Mark Bellis wrote: > > I have no faith in any supernatural phenomena or entities. How does this > > require more faith than that required to believe in a non-provable supernatural > > being? > > But absence of faith in something is not faith in nothing. Faith in nothing > takes a lot of faith! I suggest that all the unexplainable things lead > people towards believing in something rather than nothing, assuming they > don't remain agnostic. Absence of faith in something leads to faith in nothing. If you didn't understand rudimentary celestial mechanics, you would continue on with no faith that _tomorrow_ that sun was just not going to rise. Every time someone told you that tomorrow was going to be the day that the sun didn't rise and then the sun rose, you would gain faith that *no* day would be the day that sun wouldn't rise. It's just that way with your notion of God. After being surrounded by people assuring me that this God exists for so long (34 years, in my case) and seeing not one tiny little shred of evidence (I mean, not even a hint) day after day, year after year, I'm pretty confident that you're made a common mistake. And this doesn't take any faith at all. I'm just accepting the most plausible explanation that fits the evidence. If that changes, though I admit to being not particularly open to the possibility, then I'll reassess my beliefs. I do find it curious though, that this 'atheism takes a lot of faith' idea is so commonly held by your side of things. And finally, what things do you mean when you refer to "all the unexplainable things?" I'm not actually aware of any. Chris

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		Re: Atheism (was: Santorum Fails In His Effort To Pervert The Constitution)
(...) In the face of inconsistent sunrise results, you might decide that the celestial mechanics were invalid and that you cannot prove whether the sun will rise tomorrow, thus being agnostic. If the results were consistently wrong, you would just (...) (20 years ago, 18-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: Atheism (was: Santorum Fails In His Effort To Pervert The Constitution)
Hello! Sorry for chiming in but this topic sounds interesting. Of cóurse I didn't read the whole thread so please ignore my post if its a repost of the contents. (...) How about The Life™? I can't believe that's just the result of a thunderbolt (...) (20 years ago, 18-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Atheism (was: Santorum Fails In His Effort To Pervert The Constitution)
(...) A very big question in few words! The relationship is multi-faceted and includes the following things: Saviour: how you relate to someone who has saved your life by sacrificing theirs. Father: including support, protection, provision and love. (...) (20 years ago, 17-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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