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Re: Preaching to the Choir
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Wed, 11 Aug 2004 04:45:30 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Ross Crawford wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
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As far as other negative aspects of gay marriage, I would only include one--
child-raising. I believe that every child has the right to have a father
and a mother.
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The right? I don’t think children have any such right.
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“Deserve” a better word? What rights would you ascribe to children?
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They are not equal and interchangable. All things being equal,
I believe it is better for a child to grow up having a mother and a father
rather than 2 of one or the other.
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That may possibly be so, but I have seen no evidence to support it.
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Again, all things being equal, 1 woman
and 1 man is the superior and ideal family-raising scenario.
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I for one would like to see your evidence to back up that claim. I’m not
saying I disagree with you, I probably lean in that direction myself, but as
yet I have seen no evidence of it, and I certainly wouldn’t assert it as
fact.
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I’m not even sure by what criteria one could use to support or reject such a
claim. I go by this: men and women are very different by nature; vastly more
different than men between men or women between women. They are not equal or
interchangable. They each provide a wholly unique perspective that is
invaluable to a child and the child-raising experience. The idea is so obvious,
unless one believes that women and men are basically the same except for
differing reproductive organs and hormone levels. I believe that is profoundly
stupid.
JOHN
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Message has 3 Replies:
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| (...) Yes, maybe deserve is better, although I really don't really know if that is right either. I'll have to think about that some more. (...) Well I would say that many men are very feminine and many women are very masculine, so specifying 1 man (...) (20 years ago, 11-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) I'd start by correllating success in life as measured by the normal societal values: level of education, income, marital stability, etc. as well as psychological problems (including substance abuse, depression, etc), medical problems, (...) (20 years ago, 11-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) OK, 40 hours on planes gives one a little time to mull things over, so here's my take on this. I think parents/guardians have the responsibility to bring up their children the best they can. Many fall way short, but many also do a pretty good (...) (20 years ago, 21-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) The right? I don't think children have any such right. (...) That may possibly be so, but I have seen no evidence to support it. (...) I for one would like to see your evidence to back up that claim. I'm not saying I disagree with you, I (...) (20 years ago, 11-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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