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Re: Preaching to the Choir
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Sun, 8 Aug 2004 12:51:09 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
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What is that “good word”? Are you talking about Liberalism in general?
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The good word I’ve always tried to share is that of freedom. Free minds, free
markets. The problem is that neither “side”(1) gets it.
The Right (that’s you, John, and your ilk) wants to take away my personal
*rights*.
They are busily impinging my personal freedom in the name of security. Moreover,
while claiming to want to help economic freedom, they actually want to grow
government in order to promote oligopolistic corporatism, cronyism, subsidies of
things that oughtn’t be encouraged, and pet programs...
The Left (that’s you, Richard, and you, Scott, and your ilk) wants to tax and
regulate me till there’s nothing *left*.
They are busily impinging my economic freedom in the name of justice. Moreover,
while claiming to want to help personal freedom, they actually want to grow
government in order to promote socialistic redistribution, cronyism, subsidies
of things that oughtn’t be encouraged, and pet programs...
A pox on both your houses.
The best government is the least government. Both of you losers want more
rather than less. Both the major US party candidates are tax and spend
candidates that will make government larger.
My wife plans to hold her nose and vote Kerry. Michigan IS, after all, a swing
state and she feels Bush just HAS to go even if the alternative is almost as
bad.
Myself, I’ll probably still vote Libertarian.
As for preaching elsewhere... I think I’d rather put my head in the sand and
build. This is about it, talktalk wise, for me these days, regardless of how
barren the ground may be. (my checkbook is still open for causes I support,
though)
1 - remember, the one dimensional spectrum presents a false dichotomy in my view
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Message has 3 Replies:
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| (...) Good point, Lar. American politics is not a one-dimensional field, and I did not intend to belittle the parties/movements/ideologies that do not fit neatly into nice little red & blue boxes. As for your head-in-the-sand approach, well, best of (...) (20 years ago, 8-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) I'd love to see a return to the tradition of Scandinavian Moots, where before each meeting of the governing body, they had to recite every law from memory. Can't remember them all? Just don't feel like repeating them all before you can move on (...) (20 years ago, 8-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) Me Me Me. Typical libertarian! I have never said or implied that I want to "tax and regulate till there's nothing left". I do believe that society has a responsibility to provide basic services such as healthcare and education. Does that make (...) (20 years ago, 9-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) Well, I doubt I'm in the choir to which you are referring in your subject line; you probably have me in mind when speaking about the "small conservative fringe on the right" (BTW, what does that mean, exactly?). So let me tell you about my (...) (20 years ago, 8-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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