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Re: Preaching to the Choir
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Sun, 8 Aug 2004 15:42:04 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:

   What is that “good word”? Are you talking about Liberalism in general?

The good word I’ve always tried to share is that of freedom. Free minds, free markets. The problem is that neither “side”(1) gets it.

The Right (that’s you, John, and your ilk) wants to take away my personal *rights*.

They are busily impinging my personal freedom in the name of security. Moreover, while claiming to want to help economic freedom, they actually want to grow government in order to promote oligopolistic corporatism, cronyism, subsidies of things that oughtn’t be encouraged, and pet programs...

The Left (that’s you, Richard, and you, Scott, and your ilk) wants to tax and regulate me till there’s nothing *left*.

They are busily impinging my economic freedom in the name of justice. Moreover, while claiming to want to help personal freedom, they actually want to grow government in order to promote socialistic redistribution, cronyism, subsidies of things that oughtn’t be encouraged, and pet programs...

A pox on both your houses.

The best government is the least government. Both of you losers want more rather than less. Both the major US party candidates are tax and spend candidates that will make government larger.

My wife plans to hold her nose and vote Kerry. Michigan IS, after all, a swing state and she feels Bush just HAS to go even if the alternative is almost as bad.

Myself, I’ll probably still vote Libertarian.

As for preaching elsewhere... I think I’d rather put my head in the sand and build. This is about it, talktalk wise, for me these days, regardless of how barren the ground may be. (my checkbook is still open for causes I support, though)

1 - remember, the one dimensional spectrum presents a false dichotomy in my view

Good point, Lar. American politics is not a one-dimensional field, and I did not intend to belittle the parties/movements/ideologies that do not fit neatly into nice little red & blue boxes.

As for your head-in-the-sand approach, well, best of luck to you there. I’ll pass you a note through the chain link fences at Guantanamo, brother!

- Chris.



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(...) It's not that I am doing nothing. I think Bush is going to lose(1), when all is said and done. It's just that the other alternative doesn't excite me much. 1 - if he keeps saying things like this, maybe people will realise he IS saying the (...) (20 years ago, 8-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Preaching to the Choir
 
(...) The good word I've always tried to share is that of freedom. Free minds, free markets. The problem is that neither "side"(1) gets it. The Right (that's you, John, and your ilk) wants to take away my personal *rights*. They are busily impinging (...) (20 years ago, 8-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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