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Re: Atheism (was: Santorum Fails In His Effort To Pervert The Constitution)
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Wed, 28 Jul 2004 01:45:21 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks wrote:
Actually, I think you need to reread what I wrote.  I think the common man's
stance is that the POA is fine as is.  That's what the court could have
asserted.

Whoops, I did misread what you wrote.  Anyways, the bit about the Bush v. Gore
Florida ruling still shows that they have no problem turning you away on a mere
technicality, but then deny your claim later.  And you know what?  I'm perfectly
okay with that.  It means they're being careful of not setting precedent on
bringing flawed cases to court.  Without that holding true, you'd really have to
question the legitimacy of any decision they hand down.

And this "difference between belief and fact" is what you're claiming
underpins the difference between agnosticism and atheism?  But a Christian
only has the belief too, so are they agnostic?

Agnostics generally fall into one of two camps: 1) true agnostics who believe
it's impossible to know if any god exists in the absence of material proof, and
2) modern faux-agnostics who believe that some god probably exists, but they're
not sure which one.  There are Christians who lean towards Type 1 agnosticism by
questioning the existence of god in general, but in the end they will generally
either end up strengthening their beliefs or abandoning them altogether in favor
of atheism.  Christians, like any other organized religion, may have certain
questions about their faith, but ultimately they do have faith in their
religion.



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  Re: Atheism (was: Santorum Fails In His Effort To Pervert The Constitution)
 
(...) I would question whether you mean "religion" or "God" here. Faith in religion is what I call "Churchianity". It's no better than superstition, like athletes who always go through the same routine before the race starts. As a Christian, I have (...) (20 years ago, 14-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Atheism (was: Santorum Fails In His Effort To Pervert The Constitution)
 
(...) Actually, I think you need to reread what I wrote. I think the common man's stance is that the POA is fine as is. That's what the court could have asserted. (...) And this "difference between belief and fact" is what you're claiming underpins (...) (20 years ago, 27-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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