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Re: Gay Marriage
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Sat, 19 Jun 2004 05:43:06 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
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Good point! As long as no one is being harmed, they should go for it.
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Then I guess we disagree.
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I knew that. What I don’t know is why. Why are you opposed to those in
particular?
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Practical and other utilitarian arguments aside, let’s just say they go against
my religious belief system.
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If it is your point that government shouldn’t respect marriage, why can’t
you respect the notion that marriage is the union of 1 man and 1 women?
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I can absolutely respect yor right to believe that and even to belong to an
organization that believes that, such as a church. I would rather see
marriage stricken from government entirely and left to religious institutions
that can define it and limit it within their jurisdiction however they want.
I’m not offended by some church not performing gay marriage, or allowing gay
pastors, or whatever...it’s none of my business. But the law is.
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If all they really want is to be treated equally, then they
should be arguing against endorsement, not trying to change marriage.
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I suspect they realize that it’s a harder row to hoe.
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Life is hard; it’s no excuse. I’d say you may be correct and that that
realization is irresponsible.
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Or maybe, like you,
they buy into the sacred institution of marriage, but just think it should
apply to them too.
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Unfortunately, that is sacriledge.
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I dunno, I don’t currently have any close gay friends to
ping about it.
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Pity. I have heard more than a few gays speak out against this attack on the
institution of marriage. They recognize that debasing marriage does no real
good for gays, but merely to engender bitterness towards them.
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I don’t think so. They are merely attempting to achieve parity in the
easiest way.
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It is going to blow up in their faces.
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This has yet to be shown. At every turn you (and others who share your
general stance with whom I’ve talked) refuse to point to this alleged harm.
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This issue is going to split the Episcopalian Church in half.
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and is completely unnecessary.
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But it’s approachable.
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That is, unless there are ulterior motives involved.
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What are you suggesting? I can’t even fabricate a tasty conspiracy in my
mind which is what you’re seeming to point toward.
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Normalizing homosexuality/bisexuality as a lifestyle choice. Though I realize
that many gays (especially men) are hardwired the way they are, I believe that
sexuality is a lot less preset than once believed. Your attempt failed at a
later stage in life; influences earlier on may have made the difference.
JOHN
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Message has 2 Replies:
 | | Re: Gay Marriage
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| (...) Where's the harm? From one side of the issue, they get to be rid of those disgusting deviants once and for all. From the other, they get to be rid of the backward, protruding-forehead, neanderthals that have been stifling progress. It sounds (...) (20 years ago, 19-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
| | | Re: Gay Marriage
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| (...) Fair enough. When the Government and your church leaders tell you that you must accept the marriage of gays within your church, you can protest all you like, and I'll be right there with you in expressing that feeling. Unfortunately, that's (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: Gay Marriage
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| (...) I knew that. What I don't know is why. Why are you opposed to those in particular? (...) I can absolutely respect yor right to believe that and even to belong to an organization that believes that, such as a church. I would rather see marriage (...) (20 years ago, 18-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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