 | | Re: March Madness? —Dave Schuler
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| | | (...) Heck with that--I'm going to initiate legislation to adopt that cool, gold "Atheist Atom" logo as the new National Symbol. Actually, I have to admit that it doesn't look good for the side of reason. From what I heard of yesterday's (...) (21 years ago, 25-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: March Madness? —John Neal
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| | | | (...) hehe Careful now: look closely at that symbol-- you might find another, more disturbing symbol inside it;-) (...) For good reason:-) (...) Some of his arguments were pretty lame. The pledge is a "prayer"? No wonder the justices seemed rather (...) (21 years ago, 25-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: March Madness? —Dave Schuler
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| | | | (...) Well, hold on. If the Pledge includes the ceremonial invocation of a deity, then in my view it's as much a prayer as Bismillah or The Lord's Prayer. (...) I agree that it would be pretty feeble (but politically convenient) for the Justices to (...) (21 years ago, 25-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: March Madness? —John Neal
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| | | | (...) I don't think that the mere mention of a God connotates an invocation of that God. The pledge is directed towards the flag and to our nation-- "under God" is a description of that nation. All the phrase really means is that the majority of the (...) (21 years ago, 25-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: March Madness? —Dave Schuler
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| | | | (...) This may be an "agree to disagree" point. It's well established that the phrase was injected into the pledge to distinguish our "Christian" nation from the godless atheists of the communist USSR, and it's also well established that Eisenhower (...) (21 years ago, 26-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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