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| Those same Europeans also forgot who liberated their parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents during WWII. They also forgot who rebuilt France, Belgium, West Germany, and Japan as well. -HRH (Wishes the US would withdraw ALL foreign aid and (...) (21 years ago, 11-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) Actually, Europe probably remembers American WWII veterans with great fondness and gratitude. However, Europe correctly identifies Lt. George W. Bush (during the brief, non-AWOL period of his service) as a warmongering frat-boy imperialist (...) (21 years ago, 11-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) Or not. Pedro (21 years ago, 11-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) How does one respond to this without starting a flame war... It was the Allies who 'won the war' and 'liberated Europe'. As for the rebuilding, didn't the allied nations all contribute? And wasn't it a good thing that they did? I think I may (...) (21 years ago, 11-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) Yeah, but in fairness -- until Japan came after us, the war was someone else's problem. Harvey correctly identifies our psycho foreign entanglements as THEE huge problem for the U.S. -- I certainly doubt the average U.S. citizen understands (...) (21 years ago, 11-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) Thank God the British didn't feel that way. (...) Oh if wishing made it so! Iraq agression was ended in the first gulf war. What agression was there this time? Anyway, think that's been said before. Sr. was a far better leader than his son. (...) (21 years ago, 11-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) Ahhhhh, Stalin, making the world safe from Tyrany! :-) (We would have irradiated Germany in addition to Japan, to answer your question) -->Bruce<-- (21 years ago, 12-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) Just as those in the USA have forgotten France's role in America gaining independence? The last time I looked the liberation of Europe was a combined effort by ~12 nations. The last time I looked the USA had to be dragged into Europe. D-day (...) (21 years ago, 12-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) You left out "stupid". Scott A (...) (21 years ago, 12-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) Indeed, 6+ million war dead. Others: Germany 6.5 million Poland 5 million Japan 2.4 million Yugoslavia 1.7 million France 600,000 Italy 500,000 Romania 500,000 Greece 450,000 Hungary 430,000 UK 350,000 Czechoslovakia 340,000 Austria 374,000 (...) (21 years ago, 12-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Actually some estimates put the figure around 20 million, counting civilians: (URL) (21 years ago, 12-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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