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Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
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Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:42:16 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote:
For me, it comes down to whether I believe in an ultimate creator of the
universe.  And I do.

Does God exist?  Yes.

This suggests a question that may have been asked herepreviously, but I'd like
to follow up on it once again:

Accepting that you do believe that God exists, {why} do you believe that God
exists?

I've asked people this in non-LUGNET life, and the answers usually take one of
XXX forms:

1.  Because the bible/my parents/my pastor/a respected figure told me so.

2.  Because only God can explain the mystery/complexity of the universe.

3.  Because without God, life has no meaning.

4.  Because without God, many evil people are never punished.

5.  Because without God, then there is no heaven/afterlife

6.  Because He revealed Himself to me in a way that I can't express to you.

Each of these is, to me, an unsatisfactory justification for belief, and I'd be
interested to hear other motivations.

Dave!



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  Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
 
(...) Well, you won't like my answer then. Being a pretty big fan of science, but only managing to fluff in trying to get a BA, I consider myself a 'pseudo-sciece guy'. Which means I get the general concepts, adn can see how things work and all, but (...) (21 years ago, 28-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
 
(...) I'm with Kooties in that you are not likely to like my answer either. And I am likely to be further marginalized by "uber-pagan" types like Bruce. Keeping in mind that I reject most organized religions out of hand as obviously politically (...) (21 years ago, 29-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
  Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
 
(...) Where's my favorite appeal to logic: if you don't believe in God you will burn in hell for all eternity! -->Bruce<-- (21 years ago, 29-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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  Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
 
(...) As clear as poosible givine the context Some folks say that the 'good book' is God's holy word, and as such, is impervious to mistake. Sure. Whatever. That's why every minister that has ever preached and every discourse of specific passages (...) (21 years ago, 28-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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