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Re: Iraq (was Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap)
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Wed, 22 Oct 2003 01:34:18 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Mike Petrucelli wrote:
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Well, as Hop-Frog has pointed out numerous times, our founding fathers stated
quite clearly when asked that a militia was anyone that is not a government
offical.
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That’s true, and more than once I went to great lengths to make the point
crystal clear too, with lots of historical references:
2nd Amendment -- Bare Bones
And gee, that cite is not even that old...last year.
I find it annoying when a debate regular like Kooties wants to start into this
area of debate at square one each and every time as if the matter had not been
amply settled previously.
I am perfectly happy to agree to disagree on the gun issue -- Kooties has every
right to abhor gun ownership and argue for change in that area. I am less happy
that he refuses to use legislative and historical intent to define the plain
meanings of the 2nd and 9th Amendments of the U.S. Constitution. If anything, I
should think that more modern conceptions of rights should expand and not
further limit our civil liberties.
What annoys is where Kooties wants to argue something like: “a tomato is not a
fruit” when it plainly is a fruit. We get stuck circling around the definition
of words as if that were the arument itself, but doing so brings nothing new
into evidence -- Kooties rejects the plain meaning of Constitutional language,
and we insist on it’s plain meaning. Big whoop!
This is asked and answered on both sides. I don’t want to spoil anyone’s fun,
but is there anything new here to discuss?
-- Hop-Frog
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