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Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
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Fri, 17 Oct 2003 06:16:16 GMT
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   Further, your lame attempt to equate the early Israelites to current Muslim extremists is actually what is offensive, but I gave you the benefit of the doubt, trying to explain to you that the Tanach is a book of faith, not a record book, etc. Those stories are 4,000 years old; that they occured as written is highly doubtful, but not the point anyway. The point is that Christians have come to the full realization that God is a loving God, and since God never changes, God must have been that way when He pursued a covenant relationship with the early Israelites whether they realized it or not.


John,

I tried to follow this debate as close as possible...forgive me if I’ve missed something. I agree with your general position that God is unchanging, however as far as I read, you’ve only reffered to the God of the Bible as a God of love. I believe it is clear in both the old and new testaments that God is a God of justice and judgement as well as a God of love and mercy. This being the case, there is no disparity between the God of the old testament and His coming as Jesus in the new. Would you agree?

Further, the Bible is a collection of books, and as with any literature, should be read with an eye on the type of writing, be it parable, poetry, historical, etc. I would not discount statements in the old testament such as those Richard pointed out. Those statements about conquest were written in a way as to be viewed as historical fact leaving nothing up to “interpretation.” God helped the Isrealites wipe out the previous occupants of the Holy Land because their conduct was detestable to Him. It seems to me that if you believe the new testament is the inspired word of God, you should embrace the old testament the same way.


Justin



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  Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
 
(...) God is indeed just and worthy to judge, but I think we must be very careful when trying to ascertain God's Will in certain situations. The tendency is to anthropomorphize God, because God is so behind the confines of our limited understanding. (...) (21 years ago, 19-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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  Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
 
(...) Have you ever heard of Marcion, Richard? He was an early heretic who held that the God of Jesus and Yahweh were indeed different Gods entirely. Now, I am no Marcionite, but if I were, wouldn't it be rather intolerant of you to question my (...) (21 years ago, 16-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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