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Re: Killing (was: Re: Voluntary, private discrimination (Was: Disparicies in Sentencing))
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On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 12:43:05 GMT, Christopher Weeks
<clweeks@eclipse.net> wrote:

Killing animals is ethically hard to defend in most cases, but I think there are
gradations of naughtyness involved. I don't think it's enough to say "you killed,
you must die", and ignore everything else involved.

Moz

I would like to hear why killing animals is hard to defend.  Given what premises?

Wondering if he means for food (which I'm willing to accept - it IS
hard to defend in a lot of cases, although I love a good steak as much
as the next guy) or for sport, as in the case of trophy hunters, which
is impossible to defend, imo, or maybe even the killing of say pets or
something, which is also difficult to defend, since it is the
destruction of the property of another person.


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  Re: Killing (was: Re: Voluntary, private discrimination (Was: Disparicies in Sentencing))
 
Mike Stanley <cjc@NOSPAMnewsguy.com> wrote (...) Case one: humans. Should not be killed unless obsolutely necessary. Reasons? Killing reduces happiness not just in the victim, but also in their community. And can further reduce happiness in a wider (...) (25 years ago, 12-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Killing (was: Re: Voluntary, private discrimination (Was: Disparicies in Sentencing))
 
(...) As you note below, your standard is that happiness is central to your philosophy. For those who disagree, their conclusions would be different. (...) Don't be silly, no 'animals' can experience unhappiness. God put them on this earth for us to (...) (25 years ago, 13-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Killing (was: Re: Voluntary, private discrimination (Was: Disparicies in Sentencing))
 
John Neal wrote in message <37DC7797.C52E5404@u...st.net>... (...) God, or all (...) Which is nonsense is in the way of belief I think. Muslim belief is based on "everything on earth and in universe", either bad or good is for human being. (...) (25 years ago, 13-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Killing (was: Re: Voluntary, private discrimination (Was: Disparicies in Sentencing))
 
<37DC6E8E.6E78EEF4@eclipse.net> <FHztB9.Lx5@lugnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (...) I agree, but while you value happiness, others value (human) life. (...) Here in the US, not quite so (...) (25 years ago, 13-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Killing (was: Re: Voluntary, private discrimination (Was: Disparicies in Sentencing))
 
<37D91372.E6E0B943@aeieng.com> <FHvtH0.G4z@lugnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (...) I would like to hear why killing animals is hard to defend. Given what premises? --Chris (25 years ago, 11-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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