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Re: Latter Day Saints (was:Re: God and the Devil and forgiveness (was Re: POV-RAY orange color))
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Wed, 8 Sep 1999 11:52:23 GMT
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Moz (Chris Moseley) wrote:
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> John Neal <johnneal@uswest.net> wrote
> > "Moz (Chris Moseley)" wrote:
> > > No. Theft is at the core of Christian beliefs.
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> > I will respond only because Chris may truly believe what he is saying.
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> Within the terms of that debate, yes, I believe in the truth of my statements.
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> My understanding is that from Larrys perspective anything at all the requires
> he give anything to anyone is theft. If a gift is not completely voluntary it
> is theft. End of story. The church requires that he give, therefore it uses theft.
> I personally don't agree with that, but it seems to be a fair summary of the
> position used by Larry (and also Mike).
More or less. If I live in a society where I must be a member of a
church, or where I am discriminated against by my government because I
am not, and being a member requires tithing, then tithing is theft. I
would say that the US is not such a society, although it may have been
at one point. Or if it is, it is only a little bit so.
But while we're on the subject, consider this one: We have laws in
certain states that can require you to be a member of a union in order
to carry out certain occupations. To the extent that is a restraint of
free trade, are the union dues you have to pay to be in that union theft
or not?
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