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Re: Kissing heinie at its finest
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Wed, 14 May 2003 16:09:17 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Costello writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys writes:
> > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/3018367.stm
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> > > We can 'look down' on the French or (insert your 'picked-on' country of
> > > choice--Italy has had a few jokes at its expense) for decades, but woe unto
> > > us who find the arrogance of the US contemptable.
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> What is funny is the one thing that my brother in law, who live in England,
> and I have in common is French jokes. Contempt for the French and their
> arrogance seems to be a great unifier among nations.
Not in Scotland. Search for "the auld alliance". eg:
http://www.electricscotland.com/france/auld_alliance.htm
…for the resident Canadian:
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The Royal Ecossais remained a regiment of the French army. Indeed after the
failure of the '45 Rising two other French regiments were formed from Jacobite
exiles. When in 1759, by capturing Quebec, General James Wolf won Canada for
Britain, the French officer who surrendered was a certain Roche de Ramsays,
descendant of Scots Ramsays and the aide de camp was a certain Chevalier de
Johnstone, who had fought for Bonnie Prince Charlie at Culloden.
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OR:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/scottishhistory/europe/features_europe_auldalliance.shtml
Calling the “French” arrogant is like calling Americans “fat” or the Scottish
“mean”… it’s lazy cultural stereotyping [at best]. Anyhow, I’m not sure
Americans are known for their humility?
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> > > Suck it up. If you want the spotlight, we'll notice your tux-'n-tails, but
> > > we'll also notice that your fly's undone or your shoelace is untied.
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> > Too often calling people "anti-American" is just a way for the intellectually
> > lazy to counter critics. It's much easier than [say] justifying some aspects of
> > the war on terrorism or why WOMD have not been found yet.
> >
> > That fact that some of the USA's biggest critics are American is irrelevant!
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> > It's the same for Israel; its critics are often called anti-Semitic [or if they
> > are Jewish they are called "self hating Jews"].
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> Those two things are true, and likewise someone who suggests that
> affirmitive action is harmfull, or points out the high rate of crime among
> the minority community is labeled a racist. Any one who suggests that they
> don't approve of homosexuality is called a "homophobe", personally I hate
> that term for it's inacuracy. A phobia, is an irrational fear, biggotry does
> not equal phobia, if it did we could call hatred of french "francophobia".
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> Although I agree labels get tossed around too easily, one must admit that
> there is a difference between being critical of particluar American policy,
> and being truely Anti-American. I think it would be fair to label most of
> the anti-war crowd as anti-Bush, look at the signs the protestors carry.
I think most of the American electorate were shown to be "anti-Bush". ;)
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> What would I label Anti-Americanism? Here are a few beliefs that I think put
> someone in that catagory. 9/11 attacks those were either our doing or our
> fault.
It is clear that 911 was at least in part a response to US's in/actions in the
middle east... but that does not justify what happened.
> It's a little warm in the Sahara this year, that's America's fault.
That's a new one on me. However, many would argue that that, where the
environment is concerned, the USA is not a “team player”!
> Some poor family somewhere is starving, that's America's fault.
Dumping *subsidised* farm output in the developing world is causing real
problems... but the USA is not the only culprit.
Scott A
> The price of
> tea in China is too high, etc..
>
> Scott C.
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