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Subject:	Re: Latter Day Saints (was:Re: God and the Devil and forgiveness (was Re: POV-RAY orange color))
Newsgroups:	lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date:	Wed, 8 Sep 1999 01:43:46 GMT
Reply-To:	JOHNNEAL@USWEST.ihatespamNET
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<37D3BBC5.77DE038A@eclipse.net> <FHow2F.3yM@lugnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Moz (Chris Moseley)" wrote: Do I dare dignify such a troll with a response or let it rot in its own stupidity? > No. Theft is at the core of Christian beliefs. For starters the prohibition > of ursury (that is, allowing market forces to set interest rates), the > various requirements to be your brothers keeper (the church sanctions the > theft of your property to support your brother). And don't start me on > tithing, especially as traditionally done by the church when it is very > much extortion. That's just some easy ones off the top of my head. I will respond only because Chris may truly believe what he is saying. Chris, the core of the Christian belief is this: to love the Lord your God with all your heart, strength, and mind AND love your neighbor as yourself. Period. Everything else is superfluous. Got it? What you are talking about with regards to usury, theft of property, and tithing and extortion is simply B as in B, and S as in S. If you are trying to come up with some libertarian concept which refutes the notion of being my brother's keeper, bring it on. Better yet, let Lar [1], because I don't think you know what you're talking about. -John [1] troll to Lar-- "Libertopia needs Christianity to exist" > >

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		Re: Latter Day Saints (was:Re: God and the Devil and forgiveness (was Re: POV-RAY orange color))
John Neal wrote in message: (...) stupidity? well, its good debate material, whether a troll or not. (...) prohibition (...) Chris, the (...) your (...) That may or may not be the core of Christian belief - depends who you ask, but every church puts (...) (25 years ago, 8-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: Latter Day Saints (was:Re: God and the Devil and forgiveness (was Re: POV-RAY orange color))
John Neal <johnneal@uswest.net> wrote (...) Within the terms of that debate, yes, I believe in the truth of my statements. My understanding is that from Larrys perspective anything at all the requires he give anything to anyone is theft. If a gift (...) (25 years ago, 8-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: God and the Devil and forgiveness (was Re: POV-RAY orange color)
(...) Ok (...) Hey, I thought logic was only meaning_ful_ without feeling. That whole Spock thing, y'know? -- logic with feeling ain't really logic. (...) Hmmm. Well, this is one place where I kind of get confused. See, I believe that God didn't (...) (25 years ago, 31-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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