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Re: Misperceptions of America (Was: Conversation w/ a LEGO Rep)
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Tue, 7 Sep 1999 19:59:19 GMT
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Jeremy,
> Ignorace is a *good* platform from which to argue. You'll never lose ground
> from there.
I have seen this argument many times, in many forms, thank you. I can ignore
them know because the numbers do not tell the whole story. Just because there is
a greater percentage of minorities committing crimes that have capitol offenses
and them getting convicted, than the majority (i.e. white males) who do the
same, and those sentences being carried out, does not make it wrong.
Maybe I am misinterpreting what you are saying. Are you saying it is wrong to
punish minorities, or not?
> > I am not happy with disparages in punishment,
> > lowering of standards simply because of race, sex, etc. That is what I am
> > talking about.
>
> Ah, but the topic was not in changing punishment, but rather the startling
> disparagy in the demographics of execution.
Again, what are you saying, more minorities are being executed? Maybe because
more minorities are committing the crimes.
> If I were more cynical, I might suggest that the average executioner in the
> U.S. is a white male, between the age of 25 and 50, who has spent a
> considerable abount of his life in Texas. (1) But I haven't dredged up the
> data for this; it's just chum for trolling.
I am lost. What are you saying here?
> > snipped history lesson of Kwajalein Atoll>
> > > So when you wave your American flag and cheer the great nation you live in
> > > and happily file your income taxes, you may consider what has been done by
> > > your country, and what may happen yet.
> > I never am happy with filing my income taxes, thank you very much!
>
> Oops, my bad. I forgot. But please, continue.
?
>
> > These
> > kind of issues need to dealt with, but I had no control of this, and I would
> > never do such a thing myself, I wish I could do a great deal of things that the
> > US did differently, but I cannot.
>
> Yes you can. Politics, among other things, is about people trying to make a
> difference.
In what? What difference can I make for this? Giving you money? Apologizing for
something I cannot control? Sorry, I don't buy into empty and pointless
apologies, like Clinton does.
>
> > Learn from history, don't dwell on it forever
> > and ruin your life, and make strides to make sure it does not happen again.
> > [...]
> > Oh, BTW, what can happen now, since you brought it up, dare I ask?
>
> Oh, not much really, except my chance of dying early from leukemia and / or
> thyroid cancer is significantly higher. I watched my (lesse) mother's
> sister's father-in-law die slowly and painfully from a blood disease because
> he lived in southern Utah during the nuclear testing in the 1940s and 1950s.
Well, than, by all means, file a lawsuit, and whatever else you feel entitled
too! I am not stopping you. I can't change the past, so I guess you should make
the most of your life rather than dwelling on this. Take legal means if it makes
you feel better. Don't complain about how evil the US is here and not do
anything about it.
> But with regards to the Marshall Islands? They'll continue to fester, thank
> you very much. I can try to get my friends there to move away from their
> homeland, but I doubt that'll help them feel any better.
What do you want and suggest? I guess I am feeling that you want something
massive from the government, maybe you can spell it out and feel better about
it.
Scott S.
>
> Cheers,
> - jsproat
>
> 1. I *LIKE* Texas. But what's with all the executions?
>
> --
> Jeremy H. Sproat <jsproat@io.com> ~~~ http://www.io.com/~jsproat/
--
Scott E. Sanburn
CADD Operator, CADD Systems Administrator
Affiliated Engineers, Inc. Ann Arbor, MI
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