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Re: IGNORANT views fuel oppression?
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Wed, 11 Dec 2002 17:58:27 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
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> > Barak's offer was empty (it had to be ratified in a referendum). He knew
> > Arafat could not accept it. Even so, what stopped Barak from making a better
> > offer? What right does Israel have to the West Bank, Gaza or Jerusalem
> > anyway? Does SH not have equal rights over Kuwait?
> >
> > >
> > > > > Israel *can* be reasonable, *does* want
> > > > > peace, and have *proven* this. The PA is populated with those that *don't*
> > > > > want peace, *want* instability, and *desire* the destruction of the State of
> > > > > Israel. The *Palestinians* are the ones who need to clean house first here,
> > > > > just as Egypt got her act together *first*.
> > > >
> > > > Who wrecked Oslo / Oslo II? Why?
> > >
> > > Who indeed. It merely exemplifies the need for Israel to be negogiating with
> > > those who actually desire peace instead of seeking more step in the
> > > destroy-Israel agenda.
> >
> > Answer the question. Netanyahu ripped up Olso/Oslo II using a wafer thin
> > majority.
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> Former U.S. President Jimmy Carter yesterday:
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> "At Camp David in 1978 and in Oslo in 1993, Israelis, Egyptians, and
> Palestinians have endorsed the only reasonable prescription for peace: United
> Nations Resolution 242... It condemns the acquisition of territory by force,
> calls for withdrawal of Israel from the occupied territories, and provides for
> Israelis to live securely and in harmony with their neighbors. There is no
> other mandate whose implementation could more profoundly improve international
> relationships.... War may sometimes be a necessary evil, but no matter how
> necessary, it is always an evil, never a good. We will not learn how to live
> together in peace by killing each other's children..."
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> ...but the news networks are already in Iraq.
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> Scott A
I propose an OT-D Resolution 001--
In which all party(s) concerned, concurrently and without delay withdraw
from specifically discussing the Israel/Palestine issue for a term of at
least, but not limited to, one (1) month.
This resolution is proposed for the following reasons:
- This debate has caused much contention and flaming anytime it 'reared its
uglay head'.
- This debate does not seem to settle on any solution which satisfies any or
all party(s) involved in the debate.
- this debate has been ongoing for a long time with no end in sight.
I propose this resolution in the hopes that other debates will occur without
the overriding Israel/Palestine debate war which often takes over this
channel when it appears.
If this resolution is not passed, it will in no way affect this participants
participation in the O.T.-D newsgroup.
Dave K
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| (...) Ceetain parties don't want it to end (e.g. said certain party answered his own message to get it back up at the top of the queu). Just ignore said person and there won't be a debate. -->Bruce<-- And for a demonstration of such, said certain (...) (22 years ago, 11-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
| | | Re: IGNORANT views fuel oppression?
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| (...) Two comments 1. what's the "scope of the Israel/Palestine issue"... if some party(1) says that something(2) is related, is it? If someone says something isn't, is it? (3) 2. what is the enforcement mechanism? Sent to bed without dessert? (...) (22 years ago, 11-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
| | | Re: IGNORANT views fuel oppression?
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| (...) Lots of 'em do. But certain people are just gonna get angry at others regardless of the debate topic. And I don't think waiting a month would help much... (...) I don't really think the point of a debate thread is necessarily to reach a mutual (...) (22 years ago, 11-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Former U.S. President Jimmy Carter yesterday: "At Camp David in 1978 and in Oslo in 1993, Israelis, Egyptians, and Palestinians have endorsed the only reasonable prescription for peace: United Nations Resolution 242... It condemns the (...) (22 years ago, 11-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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