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Re: The Brick Testament parts the Red Sea
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Thu, 5 Dec 2002 19:04:30 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Brendan Powell Smith writes:

I personaly would find it hard to die so that someone else could live.
Especially if that person was going to sit around 2000 odd years later
declaring what a mean git I was (no offence, just an illustration).

None taken.  But, you know, if I was really, fully, and totally convinced
beyond a shadow of a doubt (as I assume Jesus was) that my suffering and
death would save the lives all humans from now until the end of time, I
don't really think it would be all that hard.  In fact, when you think about
it, you'd be have to be one selfish %$^#& to not do it.

  I can't resist a little self-promotion, since The Rev's views are so
nicely compatible with mine (irrefutable proof of his brilliance, if you ask
me).  I voiced a similar question here a while back, but the thread was huge
and I never got a response:

http://news.lugnet.com/off-topic/debate/?n=3193

Mind you I won't either, when I see God I'll be crying about all the people
I didn't tell about him. And the ones I did who didn't believe me.

Sounds great.  @8^)  Don't cry too much on my account.

  That's another question that's always bothered me: how can I in heaven
know infinite joy if I know that other people are suffering eternal
damnation?  And, if I were damned, how could my damnation be infinite if I
knew that other people are enjoying eternal bliss?  What kind of selfish
jerk would I have to be to begrudge others their reward simply because I
didn't likewise earn that reward?
  The point is that the existence of either heaven or hell, along with the
respective occupants thereof, refutes the existence of the other.

     Dave!



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  Re: The Brick Testament parts the Red Sea
 
(...) Here's how I see it. First, I'm not so sure about the eternal damnation thing. Second, I happen to believe that hell is separation from God. People *choose* to reject God, and that is hell. They choose darkness, because of selfishness, pride (...) (22 years ago, 6-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: The Brick Testament parts the Red Sea
 
Since I generally agree with DaveE's comments, I will try to not to repeat his arguments too much here, assuming you will reply to his post. (...) Yes, we are debating God's character as presented in the Bible, so in this context it only makes sense (...) (22 years ago, 5-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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