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| | | (...) One could compare it to a much more present situation :-) (funny how History repeats itself over and over again) (...) Are you sure that so many wars ended that way? From my own experience, I think it's a lot more common that the "losers" of (...) (22 years ago, 26-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: Carthage —Erik Olson
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| | | | (...) That might be more common. Could ask the Statistics of Deadly Quarrels research folks about the majority. So maybe not so many whole civilizations, but certainly city-states and isolated population centers. Philip II at Thebes. Alexander at (...) (22 years ago, 26-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Carthage —Pedro Silva
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| | | | (...) Fair enough :-) (...) That is true, although it does not tell us what happened to the slaves *in time*: did their descendents eventually gain citizenship? Were they assimilated? The city state, having been overrun, was it rebuilt? Did the (...) (22 years ago, 26-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Carthage —Erik Olson
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| | | | (...) Who knows? But there are not too many identifiable folk who have not assimilated. That nobody really understands precisely what a helot was, is one demonstration. I know of a story of one annihilated city whose survivors petitioned their (...) (22 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Carthage —Pedro Silva
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| | | | (...) I recall a NG documentary where the explorers dug a basement in Jericho (sp?), and found an almost complete arsenal of human arms since Ancient Times to 1947 Independance war of Israel. In *a single* basement... so I can understand what you (...) (22 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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