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Re: Those stupid conservative (was liberal) judges are at it again!
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Wed, 25 Sep 2002 00:11:51 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
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> OK, how about a "duty" that it's OK to shirk, but that if you don't shirk,
> gets you something extra, some privilege (I just can't spell that word!)
> you'd normally not get. (c.f. _Starship Troopers_ in which only those that
> served in the defense forces got to vote... an example that has been given
> here before, so not looking to set off a big discussion on why the movie
> doesn't live up to the intent of the author of the book, etc... but if
> people want to, why, feel free!)
Fair enough. Duty is not the word I would have chosen, but I would more or
less agree with you on this, although I'm not sure that attaching something
extra or some privilege is appropriate.
> That's not quite the dictionary definition but it's what I have in mind.
I've seen terms defined on LUGNET which are a lot further from their
dictionary definition! :-)
> I really don't want to be defended by conscript police (c.f. Clockwork
> Orange) or drafted armies, and I don't want to be tried by people who
> desperately don't want to be on jury duty but would rather be somewhere else.
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> I want to be tried by a jury of my *peers*, that is, people who think it's
> an honor to be called for jury duty, intend to pay close attention to the
> facts of the case as presented, and the laws that are claimed to apply, and
> will make a decision to the best of their abilities on both the justness of
> the law and the validity and applicability of the facts.
Is the "justness of the law and the validity and applicability of the facts"
explicitly what the jury is there for in the US?
Cheers
Richie
learning more about the US every day....
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