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Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!
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Wed, 18 Sep 2002 00:37:50 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
> > Well, it'll be about time. I for one am sick of self-righteous and
> > bigotted Christians persecuting everyone else, so if it takes a revolution
> > to establish a state of true religious freedom, then I say get me my rifle!
> > I apologize to the vast majority of Christians who are not self-righteous
> > bigots.
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> > Dave!
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> You really like the guns.
No he doesn't! He's a namby pamby anti-gun leftist. :-)
> We laugh at the French 'cause it seemed that every other week for a while
> they went thru a revolution, and yet, just below the surface of America,
> there's another revolution just looking for a spark to start it. This is
> not a good thing, btw.
Yes it is.
> Revolutions are for impatient people who want things their way and they want
> it now, instead of working with the system to improve it from the inside.
What if the system doesn't allow reform?
> One of the problems with revolutions is that there will come a time when,
> well 'we need another revolution 'cause of whatever...' It causes
> instability, and you lose the foundational history of who you were before
> the revolution to build on.
The US is founded on the notion that recurring revolutions _will_ be needed.
And I don't see how a revolution negate's previous history. It doesn't.
> If we look at it, whatever happened before 1776 is all nice to know for
> history and such, but really has nothing to do with 'being American'
False. We have a long rich tradition dependent on our previous histories. Our
language, our law, our philosophy, our religion, our art, and everything is a
continuous experience. It didn't all magically start in 1776.
> Seriously, have your gun--it doesn't matter to me, just like others
> 'unbelief' in God does not affect my belief in God. For me, just don't
> equate the freedoms you enjoy today, and hopefully will continue to enjoy in
> the future, are due to *your* having a .357 in the closet. You're free
> today because the military is out in the world protecting your freedom,
> because the police are patrolling the streets locally protecting your
> freedom, and the people you voted into office are working politically to
> protect your freedom (or should be anyway--if they aren't, you can vote 'em
> out of office the next election :) )--it really has nothing to do with that
> piece of steel in your house.
I seriously hope that the number of citizens of the US who believe as you do is
miniscule. Such a grave misunderstanding of the role of firearm rights in
America seriously scares me.
Chris
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| (...) :) (...) Show me. Show me how people dying needlessly is a good thing. Show me how a revolution would make the United States of America better right now. Show me how not working within the system that you have set up down there, a system, I (...) (24 years ago, 19-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes: <snip> in any case you are ONCE AGAIN missing the point. If the State (...) While I agree with you in your point about keeping religion out of state run affairs... I have the freedom to believe what I (...) (24 years ago, 12-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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