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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
> > Credible evidence? Prove to the fish that water exists.
>
> Well, see, fish aren't exactly rocket scientists. While I'm pretty sure they
> feel pain, I don't think they have thoughts. So I don't think such a proof is
> possible.
I agree. I would further ask John how he would demonstrate to someone
permanently locked indoors that wind exists.
> > It can't see it, it can't feel it, it can't taste it,
>
> Uh...sure it can. I can see, feel, and taste water (and air, for that matter)
> so why couldn't the fish? Actually, I'm rusty on my ichthyology, can they
> taste or just smell?
I had salmon last night--it tasted great and smelled great. Does that
help? 8^)
> > Again, I can read the last chapter in a book and know whats going to happen.
> > The characters in the book don't have a clue. Does that deny their free
> > will to do as they please in the book?
>
> Do you hear yourself? I mean really! You just asserted that characters in
> books have free will. That was some kind of a slip up right?
For those playing along at home, Dave K has just rolled out some rehashed
C. S. Lewis. Lewis, while an entertaining read, should hardly be taken as
logically infallible; witness the above "author-in-the-book" metaphor and
the oft-touted "liar/lunatic/lord" false trichotomy.
> > I have not seen it, am I
> > taking it on faith that it's there? Or has my judgement, my intellect, my
> > rationality weighed all possible ideas and scenarios and said, 'Madagascar
> > exists whether I've seen it or not.'
> >
> > Just as God exists whether I have seen Him or not.
>
> But you _could_ see Madagascar.
And this, if I'm not mistaken, is Lee Stroebel's nonsense. Am I missing
the cite? Chris' debunking was 100% correct, so I'll simply "me, too" that
part of his post.
> > The laws of God are 'written
> > on our hearts'. It might be all touchy feely but it's there. You know when
> > you're doing something wrong--you don't need the police to tell you
> > that--you feel it. And none of that has anything to do with science.
This is witnessing and irrelevant to discussions of science.
Dave!
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