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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
> I should clarify. When it was decided by whomever to celebrate the birth of
> Jesus,
Who exactly is "whomever" and why do you believe in the things they may have
stated? How or why does whomever's views supersede the red letter words of
Jesus?
> In a manner, yes. Every time a Christian takes communion, it is a remembrance
> of Jesus' last supper (which was a Passover seder).
I think "communion" is another man's creation. Jesus kept the Passover. If
you claim to follow Jesus, why do you keep "communion" and not the Passover?
If you don't follow Jesus, what exactly do you claim about the existence of
God? Who is your god?
Luke 22:8 And he sent Peter and John, saying, Go and prepare us the
passover, that we may eat.
> However, since He was crucified during that time, celebrating His resurrection
> has kind of trumped the actual observance of Passover.
Says who? Not Jesus -- he instituted an overlay on top of the existing
Passover tradition. Can you direct me to a biblical citation that notes the
creation of either Xmas or Easter? And if not, why do you practice what I
know to be pagan rites?
Is it the case that you believe in Jesus as a divine being capable of things
like a resurrection? And if you do, why don't you practice the things he
stated explicitly?
You say not to blame the messenger, but you're all I have when it comes to
your wacky beliefs John -- my point is that I don't think you know what you
believe or why you believe it.
-- Hop-Frog
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| (...) I think it's irrelevant who started it. The incarnation of God is a pretty special event, to say the least. To argue that it is somehow wrong to celebrate Jesus' birth without a written command to do so is specious. (...) Sorry. *THAT* is (...) (22 years ago, 12-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) I should clarify. When it was decided by whomever to celebrate the birth of Jesus, the day of the year with the shortest amount of light was chosen (the winter solstice) which also happened to be a day which the pagans celebrated as well. (...) (22 years ago, 11-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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