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Re: Evolution vs Scientific Creationism
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Wed, 10 Jul 2002 21:46:15 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Eaton writes:
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> > > At some point, you'd have to acknowledge that some
> > > stuff came from nowhere, which seems illogical within the perimeters of
> > > evolution (to me, at least).
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> > Well, I'd pose the same question on Creationism. Where'd God come from?
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> Precisely. But my point is that whether you believe in Evolution or believe
> in Creationism, both POVs require the same leap of faith, or whatever you
> want to call it. Neither one, it seems to me, explains our universe any
> better than the other.
Evolution isn't trying to explain the universe. You seem to be stumbling
over that.
> What I am reacting to is the notion that a belief in God is somehow
> anti-intellectual or intellectually compromising.
Now *THIS* I can agree with (the reaction, not the notion). It's an
impression I've had for a long time in .debate, although I don't think
anyone's stated it outright. There are several people who appear to reject
out-of-hand anything that involves faith or belief instead of strict reason
or logic. This is of course, personal choice and all that jazz, but they
also appear to reject and even deride or vilify anyone who *does* feel that
belief is a valid premise for anything.
There is a strong impression that several people here project: not only are
faith-based arguments invalid but the people who put them forward are
somehow lesser people.
James
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Message has 2 Replies:
 | | Re: Evolution vs Scientific Creationism
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| I don't have a problem with someone believing in a Greater Being... What I DO have a problem with is the following: IF such a Greater Being exists, why is he/she/it such a bastard? I don't take with the Watchmaker theory, it basically doesn't jive. (...) (22 years ago, 10-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
| | | Re: Evolution vs Scientific Creationism
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| (...) I'm one of those people, so I'll offer something of an explanation. It's not that we (allow me to presume to speak for others who share my view on this) think an anti-evolutionist is a lesser *person,* but it is almost invariably the case that (...) (22 years ago, 11-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Evolution vs Scientific Creationism
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| (...) I can accept the matter and energy thing, but wouldn't that suppose that life and non-life are merely facets of the same thing, which would suggest that evolution and cosmology are intertwined? (...) Yes. It is a paradox, and thus illogical (...) (22 years ago, 10-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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