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| | | (...) <snip> I have to say I started by reading the conclusion first. This line caught my eye: “Being Arabs, they are incapable of constructing a rational polity, so their future is probably hopeless whatever happens.” As I am not aware of any (...) (23 years ago, 22-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: First entry in "predict the responses!" —David Koudys
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| | | | (...) I thought that the entire article was written with a cynnical 'tongue in cheek' method. I don't think the author is racist, but rather looking at the "facts" as he sees them and saying that' "Hey, you've had just as much opportunity thru the (...) (23 years ago, 22-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: First entry in "predict the responses!" —John Neal
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| | | | | (...) Look at it this way. Perhaps what he is trying to point out is that a government based upon a religion *is* irrational. I am all for the separation of church and state as I'm sure you are as well-- the Arabs terrorists and Arab state (...) (23 years ago, 22-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: First entry in "predict the responses!" —Lindsay Frederick Braun
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| | | | | | (...) John--which Arab governments are based on religion? In fact the most secular government in the region is Saddam Hussein's Iraq-- which is why he was our proxy against the Islamic theocratic Republic of Iran. Now, that *is* a religious (...) (23 years ago, 22-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: First entry in "predict the responses!" —John Neal
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| | | | | | (...) I agree that both Iraq and Iran have been very influenced by the West and could evolve into productive states on this planet, but of course that very westernization is what is driving the Islamic fundamentalists in those countries in the first (...) (23 years ago, 23-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: First entry in "predict the responses!" —Scott Arthur
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| | | | <snip> (...) I can't agree HK is all that good a comparator. The cold war also had a huge impact in the ME… this was less true of HK. (...) What if the wrong, which happened so many years ago, is continuing? (...) You are using the actions of a (...) (23 years ago, 23-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: First entry in "predict the responses!" —David Koudys
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| | | | (...) What if the wrong, which started so many years ago, which is also continuing because it is being perpetuated by *both* sides, continues? Who's at fault *today*? They *both* are. Let me try a different analogy and see if you like it better. (...) (23 years ago, 23-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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