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Re: An armed society...
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Wed, 23 Jan 2002 16:58:20 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Kirby Warden writes:
> > until someone comes and takes that freedom away. Then those "free" people
> > might wish they had the means to keep that freedom.
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> Strange that you view that as an eventuality rather than a possibility. I
> prefer life in a society where we are able to take the decision to live
> largely without guns. Earlier, somebody said they needed a gun for
> protection from the big bad government and his neighbours. That does not
> sound like freedom to me – it sounds like the exact opposite. I prefer to
> keep Lego under my bed – not a gun. How about you? ;)
But we need guns to prevent crime, right?
Oh, wait... According to http://www.norc.uchicago.edu/new/guns97.pdf
> Most people took multiple precautions during the last year to protect
> themselves against crime. Out of a list of 10 possible anti-crime measures
> people on average too 3.6 measures. As Table 10 indicates, locking doors was
> the most common measure taken (94%) and carrying a gun away from home was the
> least common (11%). People were then asked what measure of those they had
> taken did they consider the “most effective in protecting yourself from
> crime.” Acting more aware or cautious was the first choice (41%) followed by
> locking doors (24.5%). All other precautions were much less frequently
> mentioned. Keeping a gun at home was listed as 6th most effective (4.5%) and
> carrying a gun away from home as 9th most effective (1.5%). Even among those
> who used guns for anti-crime protection, few judged firearms as especially
> effective. ---Page 13
So it's a good thing we need to protect ourselves from the
Guvmint--otherwise we wouldn't have any use for guns at all!
Dave!
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| (...) abridged citations, right? I am just not wasting my time picking apart the wording and finding facts and figures to contradict yours -- I know they exist. We aren't going to settle this discussion in any way by arguing over statistics. BTW, (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) So, if I understand your implication, you're saying that taking safety measure X is dumb if it is less helpful than safety measure Y. Right? Inherent in that idea is that only one safety precaution is appropriate, right? So if I surveyed (...) (25 years ago, 24-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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