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Re: Government's role [Was: Re: What happened?]
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Date: 
Thu, 15 Jul 1999 16:36:03 GMT
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Scott Edward Sanburn wrote:

Libertarians (Please tell me if I am wrong,
Larry!) believe that government has grown out of control (We can debate this
forever as well), that it has too much money and power, and should be scaled
back to what the original intent of the U.S. government was to be. As a

I'm not speaking for Larry here, but some Libertarians agree that the
government is big and needs to be scaled back, but don't believe that
the original concept of our government is without flaw.  I would be
gladdened by what you suggest, but it would just grow out of control
again.  And democracy is flawed.  The whole deal with democracy is that
the majority gets to push the minorities around and I think that's a bad
system.  (It beats minorities pushing majorities around - which is what
it replaced - but ideally no one would be pushed around.)

I tend to side towards the Republicans than the Libertarians over certain Libertarian > philosophies,

Out of curiosity, which ones?

her about this. Every time you hear any politician planning on "spending" the
supposed "budget surplus", realize that you are being overcharged by the

ALL "surplus" should go to pay the national debt.

I think everyone agrees that we do need to pay for certain things (roads,
military, etc.) However, in summary, I believe we are overtaxed by a

No.  I don't.  I don't think that we (as a group) need to forcibly
extract payment for _any_ certain things from citizens.

bureaucratic monstrosity, that the government cannot reform itself, and that
social spending will continue to bankrupt us if we are not careful. If the role

Not just social spending, but defense, roads, everything.  You
republicrats are only a little better than the demopublicans IMO.

--
Sincerely,

Christopher L. Weeks
central Missouri, USA



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  Re: Government's role [Was: Re: What happened?]
 
Chris, (...) I would disagree with your definition of democracy in terms of minorities being pushed around, but I think that everyone should be treated the same in terms of law, etc. I don't think anyone deserves special treatment for anything. OK, (...) (25 years ago, 15-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Government's role [Was: Re: What happened?]
 
(...) Republican == Democrat Don't ever forget that. "A difference which makes no difference is no difference." Steve (25 years ago, 15-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Government's role [Was: Re: What happened?]
 
(...) So what do you want? Total anarchy? That's minorities pushing majorities around again. Being pushed around is a natural state of being for humankind. Maybe one day we'll grow out of it, but it'll be another few centuries at the _very_ least. (...) (25 years ago, 22-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Government's role [Was: Re: What happened?]
 
Simon & All; Based on the conversations I have read regarding these issues (health care, right of, etc.), and Larry's views (Libertarian), I think a lot of you are missing Larry's point as well as my own. If you compare what the founding Fathers (...) (25 years ago, 15-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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