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Re: One of my issues with the god of the old testament
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Wed, 14 Nov 2001 09:50:06 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Jeremy H. Sproat writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > http://www.thereverend.com/brick_testament/the_tower_of_babel/gn11_07.html
> > Please! What sort of god thwarts his people out of spite? Not my sort.
> 
> Okay, this is a troll, but I'll bite, since Larry's my chum...
> 
> Spite?  Hardly.
> 
> Larry, the picture is taken out of context.  Presented by itself, yes, it
> depicts a spiteful god.  However, so would a picture depicting only the
> scene of a parent disciplining a child.  No, you need context.
> 
> The people of the world were prideful, and attempted to construct the tower
> in their efforts to physically reach heaven.  Such a plan would have
> defeated the entire plan of creation, and so the Lord stopped their efforts.
> The method described in Genesis was to confound their speech and scatter
> them across the world.

Once the tower was, constructed was the plan not to shoot an arrow at God?
But I agree with you, the story I remember is that God causes confusion in
the tower workers by creating the language barriers – this was more to stop
the tower building than to punish Nimrod’s people.

I think the Reverend is doing a good job, he is clearly bringing these
parables to the ignorant. :)

Scott A



> 
> Understanding that this is all from 9 verses in the book of Genesis; within
> the same chapter more than 20 verses are dedicated to lineages.  (2)  It is
> probably safe to assume, given that the Bible is true in as much as it is
> correctly translated (1), that the whole story was not included in the book
> of Genesis.  The document this story is from is literally THOUSANDS of years
> old.  I'm willing to bet that something was lost along the way.  Any takers?
> 
> Then there's the God-works-in-mysterious-ways aspect.  Perhaps this was a
> clever ploy to get people to populate the entire world, and engage in more
> productive activity (such as not building towers of dubious purpose).  By
> breaking the global link of language, people would have been prone to form
> smaller local communities.
> 
> So viewing the action as both a punitive and a progressive measure, I can
> hardly call the actions spite.  You want spite, you should probably check
> out the Book of Job.
> 
> Cheers,
> - jsproat
> 
> 1.  ...and I do personally believe that King James translation of the Bible
> is MOSTLY correct...
> 
> 2.  FWIW:  http://www.hti.umich.edu/cgi/k/kjv/kjv-idx?type=DIV2&byte=37049



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(...) Okay, this is a troll, but I'll bite, since Larry's my chum... Spite? Hardly. Larry, the picture is taken out of context. Presented by itself, yes, it depicts a spiteful god. However, so would a picture depicting only the scene of a parent (...) (25 years ago, 14-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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