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Re: Hiroshima-Was It Necessary?
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Wed, 17 Oct 2001 14:55:22 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Eaton writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > But I'm not a moral relativist. I hold them as evil nonetheless, and it's
> > not because 90% of the world would vote that way in a poll.
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> So.... how is that not "might makes right?" Or "Larry makes right" as the
> case may be. How is this subjective judgement any better than their
> subjective judgment of us?
Well that's the crux of the hole in my argument. Unless it can be shown that
it is NOT a subjective judgement (that is, that it's not just a morally
relative judgement), we have to accept the outcome that they view themselves
as evil and themselves as bad as JUST AS VALID as our own finding.
I reject that outcome (that both sides have equally valid reasons for
considering the other side evil) but haven't been able to demonstrate why it
is incorrect. So the hole remains. And the argument does not stand as
written. As I already conceded. Hope that helps.
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Message has 2 Replies:
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| Typo alert! (...) This should say "we have to accept the outcome that they view themselves as good and us as evil as JUST AS VALID as our own finding of the opposite" Too many negatives and I got confused, I guess. Sorry about that, peeps. (23 years ago, 17-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
| | | Re: Hiroshima-Was It Necessary?
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| (...) Yes, but not for the reasons you state, I think. The hole is that I don't think morality is necessarily tied to these events. Whether or not it was a moral action doesn't matter to whether it was "necessary" or not, unless your ends are (...) (23 years ago, 17-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Hiroshima-Was It Necessary?
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| (...) So.... how is that not "might makes right?" Or "Larry makes right" as the case may be. How is this subjective judgement any better than their subjective judgment of us? (...) By my book it only matters what the intentions are of those (...) (23 years ago, 17-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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