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Re: Rights to free goods? (was Re: What happened?
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Date: 
Mon, 5 Jul 1999 15:16:31 GMT
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Richard Dee wrote:

I prefer all-food items zero-rated. No tax on food. . Your
examples to counter the exemption of food are a bit too
comical (though no doubt, some tax lawyer may try to use that
example if their client is being audited!)
Living in a country so anti-tax, it does seem absurd to propose
tax on something so essential as all food.

Really, Richard, are you trying to appear dense and quibblish on
purpose?

I'm convinced that the "final state" libertarian government can be
funded without taxes. Taxes are only needed during the transition
period. So I don't want any. But if I must have them (and I remind you
this was in response to an question about *my* preferences) I prefer a
flat poll tax without exemptions.

Sales tax is my second choice of a tax, and as such my defense of it is
only luke warm. But if it's the choice selected, I prefer it with no
exemptions.

You can say my examples are ludicrous, but I just gave a couple off the
top of my head, they were not meant to be exhaustive. I'd impose a sales
tax on shelter, electricity, clothing and busfare too. You name it, it
all gets the same tax. *Anything* can be shown to be required for
survival if you work at the analysis. Why exempt food? Who are you to
say that food is more important than (and we should encourage its
consumption in preference to) any other good? According to Jeff S. your
morals are no better than anyone elses.

Don't you get it? Any time you exempt something you're making a value
judgement about what the economy should produce. Central planning does
not work. Now, granted, not taxing food is relatively mild central
planning but I reject it just the same on principle.

Can we move on from this debating about what my preferences should be?
They are what they are. I'm satisfied with them and I ultimately don't
CARE whether you are or not.

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  Re: Rights to free goods? (was Re: What happened?
 
(...) Food (store-bought) is less important than Internet access. :-) Heck, I can stick some seeds in the ground and grow my own food for free out in the garden if I want, but I sure can't stick a wire in the ground and grow Internet access for (...) (25 years ago, 5-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Rights to free goods? (was Re: What happened?
 
On Mon, 5 Jul 1999 15:16:31 GMT, Larry Pieniazek uttered the following profundities... (...) You should know me well enough by now to know the answer to that one. Of course I am! :o) (...) I missed out somewhere the bit about no taxis. (...) Sales (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Rights to free goods? (was Re: What happened?
 
On Sat, 3 Jul 1999 14:27:17 GMT, Larry Pieniazek uttered the following profundities... (...) Unless of course, you are one of the poor sods denied any health care, because even if they made it to the hospital, they might be deemed an unsuitable (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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