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Subject:	Re: Violence created by presence of guns? (was: Gotta love Oracle...)
Newsgroups:	lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date:	Tue, 9 Oct 2001 00:46:42 GMT
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Pedro Silva wrote: > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tom Stangl writes: > > (snipped) > > > Most criminals aren't stupid. Given a choice against going up against an armed > > or unarmed victim, most will logically choose the unarmed victim. > > Most criminals aren't psychic, either. So how can they tell if someone is > armed or not? Simple - they go to areas where weapons are hard to *lawfully* get. Statistics prove this out - the easier it is to *lawfully* get a gun, hence the more *lawful* citizens have them, the lower the "bad" crimes in the area. > They just try their luck. No, they often find easier pickings in other areas. > If the victim is not armed, fine; if it is, too > bad, one person will probably get hurt. Yes, and if it's the criminal, I sure won't feel bad about it. > > I sure would if I were a criminal! > > And what about you, how would you tell the difference if you were a criminal? I'd do my crime in places where it's hard to *lawfully* get a gun. -- Tom Stangl ***http://www.vfaq.com/ ***DSM Visual FAQ home ***http://ba.dsm.org/ ***SF Bay Area DSMs

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		Re: Violence created by presence of guns? (was: Gotta love Oracle...)
(...) Statistics (...) lawful (...) Hmmm...I hate to point this out: UK murder rate by handgun is lower than US one...hmmm, seems that the _opposite_ effect is true. Or, look at Canada/US . Same sort of effects. Although, I think that it has a (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: Violence created by presence of guns? (was: Gotta love Oracle...)
(...) How far would they travel to do that? At least not to Europe ... (...) ... because these statistics must be within the US. And of course they prove nothing about how the situation would be like with a consistent legislation over the *whole (...) (23 years ago, 11-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Violence created by presence of guns? (was: Gotta love Oracle...)
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tom Stangl writes: (snipped) (...) Most criminals aren't psychic, either. So how can they tell if someone is armed or not? They just try their luck. If the victim is not armed, fine; if it is, too bad, one person will (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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