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Re: Gotta love Oracle...
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Date: 
Mon, 8 Oct 2001 22:15:43 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Pedro Silva writes:

But you missed my point. The State grants the license, but the use the
driver makes of it is his responsability.

So if it is ultimately the driver's responsibility, what good then is the
license or the act of issuing it?

His own *sense* must dictate
whether he is or not fit to drive. If not his sense, his body. If neither,
the family (hopefully). Or else we will have a potential problem - which is
less likely to occurr than drunk driving (another issue of sense and
responsability).

There is no difference in kind among these. Both are abrogations of
responsibility.

I believe you are caught in a contradiction, you have conceded that the
licensing act does nothing to improve safety and that it is a personal
responsibility issue and that licenses therefore are useless yet you still
cling to the state and its false protective cloak.



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  Re: Gotta love Oracle...
 
(...) First, it proves the driver knows how to drive; second, it issues HIM the responsability for his actions behind the wheel, and noone else. It acts more to third parties' safety/insurance than the driver himself. (...) Synonym, PLEASE! :-) And (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Gotta love Oracle...
 
Hello Larry, (...) No, you're trying to construct the contradiction, by requiring that the result of a regulation must be perfect. Requiring a license does improve safety (though not perfectly). True, it just sets a minimum standard [1]. This is at (...) (23 years ago, 10-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Gotta love Oracle...
 
(...) You have correctly interpreted my "No", Lar. "No, it does not", that was what I should have written. Language issues... :-) But you missed my point. The State grants the license, but the use the driver makes of it is his responsability. His (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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