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Re: Gotta love Oracle...
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Date: 
Mon, 8 Oct 2001 22:15:43 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Pedro Silva writes:

> But you missed my point. The State grants the license, but the use the
> driver makes of it is his responsability.

So if it is ultimately the driver's responsibility, what good then is the
license or the act of issuing it?

> His own *sense* must dictate
> whether he is or not fit to drive. If not his sense, his body. If neither,
> the family (hopefully). Or else we will have a potential problem - which is
> less likely to occurr than drunk driving (another issue of sense and
> responsability).

There is no difference in kind among these. Both are abrogations of
responsibility.

I believe you are caught in a contradiction, you have conceded that the
licensing act does nothing to improve safety and that it is a personal
responsibility issue and that licenses therefore are useless yet you still
cling to the state and its false protective cloak.



Message has 2 Replies:
  Re: Gotta love Oracle...
 
(...) First, it proves the driver knows how to drive; second, it issues HIM the responsability for his actions behind the wheel, and noone else. It acts more to third parties' safety/insurance than the driver himself. (...) Synonym, PLEASE! :-) And (...) (25 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Gotta love Oracle...
 
Hello Larry, (...) No, you're trying to construct the contradiction, by requiring that the result of a regulation must be perfect. Requiring a license does improve safety (though not perfectly). True, it just sets a minimum standard [1]. This is at (...) (25 years ago, 10-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Gotta love Oracle...
 
(...) You have correctly interpreted my "No", Lar. "No, it does not", that was what I should have written. Language issues... :-) But you missed my point. The State grants the license, but the use the driver makes of it is his responsability. His (...) (25 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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