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Re: What happened?
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Wed, 30 Jun 1999 16:15:51 GMT
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Ugh, I go on a 5 day vacation, and I get back to this! Oh well! :)
Jasper Janssen wrote:
> Actually, since I don't see the people rising up against the
> government anytime soon, that argument is dead in the water..
It doesn't matter if "that argument is dead in the water" (I don't think it is),
the founding fathers put the second amendment in just in case the government
gets out of control. If you look at the original Constitution, and the way the
federal government was initially set up, today's one would make the Founding
Fathers cringe. I don't know if there will ever be a revolution again or not,
but, after tasting England's suppression during the colonial period, and the
resulting American Revolution, they made sure that the citizenry would have the
proper means of taking out an oppressive government. that is why people
(facists-Hitler, Soviet Union, etc.) always love gun control and registration,
to make sure they can snuff out any chance for rebellion. This is a unique
freedom to the US, and that is one of the reasons why, IMHO, America is a great
country to be in.
> Also, overthrowing the government by force is illegal anyway. You can
> always get guns illegally no matter what laws there are about them
> (part of NRA propaganda..).
I am sure overthrowing any government is illegal anywhere, whether you are
talking about Britain, or the former USSR, or whatever. Hence, revolution! Do
you know of the specific law anyway? Going against England in the revolution was
illegal, technically, anyway, but I think the revolutionaries knew they were
being oppressed, they did not have freedom, and decided to "break the law".
Never forget this all started over taxing!
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> Therefore, you don't need legal guns to overthrow the government by
> violent means.
What, do you get illegal guns then to overthrow them? I can go out right now and
get any gun I want, illegally. I am not, since I do follow the laws of the land.
I should not have too, since I have a right under the constitution to get one,
at least until people and leftists like Bill Clinton and his crowd, overturn it,
"for the children", or some illogical thing like that.
Scott Sanburn
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| (...) /s/5 day/7 day/g, and the same. (...) I know. (...) Bzzt. Benito was the fascist. Mr moustache and Mr Red were not fascists. (...) You're _completely_ missing the point. You think I'm equating illegal with bad. I don't necessarily. (...) (25 years ago, 12-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Dude, you need a sarcasm detector. Actually, since I don't see the people rising up against the government anytime soon, that argument is dead in the water.. Also, overthrowing the government by force is illegal anyway. You can always get guns (...) (25 years ago, 27-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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