| | Re: Does God Exist? (was Re: Mercy? (was Re: My Prayer on this National Day of Prayer)) Jason J. Railton
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| | (...) So, here's how I like to see it. If God started everything off, what if He let it play out - what if He wasn't sticking His oar in every five minutes? What if we really do have free will, for a start? Who wants to live in a universe where you (...) (23 years ago, 17-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | Re: Does God Exist? (was Re: Mercy? (was Re: My Prayer on this National Day of Prayer)) Ian Warfield
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| | | | (...) God reserves the right to engineer events, but He makes sure to allow us to maintain our free will. Anyway it's God's universe; He can do what He wants with it. (...) You have that choice. The tree of knowledge was placed in the Garden of Eden (...) (23 years ago, 17-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Does God Exist? (was Re: Mercy? (was Re: My Prayer on this National Day of Prayer)) Christopher L. Weeks
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| | | | (...) You're not getting it. Maybe there were 10^37 (or whatever) universal incarnations that had nothing like us occur. That's fine. You're arguing that a probability that doesn't actually have any bearing on our likelihood, does. I'm sorry, but (...) (23 years ago, 17-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Does God Exist? (was Re: Mercy? (was Re: My Prayer on this National Day of Prayer)) Dave Schuler
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| | | | (...) Yes indeed. Another way to approach it is to point out that we (life in general) weren't running around looking for a universe to populate and were lucky enough to find this one; we (again, life in general) arose within this universe because (...) (23 years ago, 17-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Does God Exist? (was Re: Mercy? (was Re: My Prayer on this National Day of Prayer)) Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | (...) Might that be because you don't play? That's *usually* my reason for not winning, although once in a while (when the expected value (of the net present value of the win after taxes) >100% of the cost to play) it is because the gods don't like (...) (23 years ago, 17-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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