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Re: Bummer of the Week: LEGO Made in China
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Thu, 6 Sep 2001 22:51:43 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Mladen Pejic writes:
> I'm very suprised (almost shocked!) that you say this? Don't you know how many
> millions of Russians died during WWII??? [1] 25,568,000!!! These are the
> highest casualties in the entire war
The only question is how many of these 25 million did Stalin off himself
(there should be a smiley here, but it is kind of hard to use one when
talking about this kinda of mega-death).
> The Soviet army reached Hitler's bunker first.
That was a political deal.
> The Battle of Kursk was one of the greatest tank battles in history (Soviets
> won).
The Soviets had very good tanks, and lots of them.
> The Soviet army destroyed (i.e. completely) practically all the German armies
> that had invaded the U.S.S.R.
The death camps you don't hear about - if Hitler was a bigger monster, it
wasn't because Stalin didn't try. (another dubious smiley placement)
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> Sorry, this post does sound very one sided, but not enough is said about the
> U.S.S.R. and it's role in WWII. However, most Americans love
> violent pro-American WWII movies which glorify the war, and the U.S.S.R. and
> its allies were the "Evil Commies" (yes, that was sarcasm), so this should not
> be very suprising. ;-)
But they were the Evil Commies! That doesn't mean the suffering and
sacrifice of the common person was any less real, of course, nor should
their efforts to subdue the common foe be belittled (it should be noted that
as much as we ignore the Russian efforts, they were even worse).
I should note the recent "Enemy at the Gates" (okay, I believe that was a
British production) on the movie front.
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| (...) many (...) No comment, I really can't pick a side. He probably was a killer, but he sure did a lot for his country... Much like Hitler... Ooo... That doesn't sound good. ;-) Honestly, I'd love to find a leader who doesn't do horrible things (...) (23 years ago, 6-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Nah, that's about the figure accepted for war-related mass democide. Stalin's tally is *on top of that*. (...) Now, this is interesting. What's the political deal you heard? I know that the Germans were evacuating soldiers and civilians en (...) (23 years ago, 6-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) the (...) I'm very suprised (almost shocked!) that you say this? Don't you know how many millions of Russians died during WWII??? [1] 25,568,000!!! These are the highest casualties in the entire war. What Bruce mentions below is also true. (...) (23 years ago, 6-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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