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Re: Bummer of the Week: LEGO Made in China
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Thu, 6 Sep 2001 21:47:03 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
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> > > What I really want to know is where the heck was Russia during all this
> > > Nazi stuff? ;^)
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> > Russia and Germany were engaged in the greatest land battle in the history
> > of the planet. The scope and devastation of it was truly appalling - it's
> > what ground Germany up. Of course, neither of those two sides was out to
> > "save" Europe, and Stalin would have have been the greatest monster of all
> > time if not for Hitler.
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> Yeah, I'm not a big Stalin fan in any case, but it seems likely that
> goodly chunk of my ancestry was wiped out by his antics in the Ukraine.
> I hoped the ;^) would be a tip off, but, balancing that against my
> admission of ignorance, I can see why you thought my question was sincere!
> At this point I'm simply parroting what I overheard in a conversation
> between two coworkers, but they expressed a view that the tide of WWII might
> have gone differently if the winter had been less severe.
Keep this in mind....if Hitler had let his generals run the war they would
have won it.They did not want to fight the U.S. OR the U.S.S.R. Also without
Hitlers interference the jet plane would have been put into production alot
sooner and would have wiped our bombers/fighters from the sky and without
air support our troops would have had made little difference.
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> > Whether or not the U.S. "saved" Europe is kinda immaterial since Germany
> > declared war on the U.S., instead of us riding in on our gallant white
> > steed. The question if Germany could have been defeated without the U.S. is
> > an interesting counterfactual.
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> > Bruce
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| (...) General Winter, the finest leader of the Russian Army! Well, him and that Zhukov chap. ;) (...) If Hitler's generals had run the war, Hitler couldn't have been Hitler. What happened was as much doctrine as it was individuals--it's like any (...) (23 years ago, 6-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Yeah, I'm not a big Stalin fan in any case, but it seems likely that goodly chunk of my ancestry was wiped out by his antics in the Ukraine. I hoped the ;^) would be a tip off, but, balancing that against my admission of ignorance, I can see (...) (23 years ago, 6-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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