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Re: National vote on handguns?
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Mon, 23 Jul 2001 15:21:14 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
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> > I asked about this before: http://news.lugnet.com/off-topic/debate/?n=11852
> > but I wanted to clarify your answer. Specifically, would you support
> > "starting over" with new laws even if those laws ultimately conflicted
> > (perhaps diametrically) with your own views?
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> I support the process, but reserve the right to bolt if I don't like the
> outcome...
"Bolt" in what sense? "Support(ing) the process" entails living with the
outcome (though I can understand moving to a different country).
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> > And, in addressing the 75% majority vote, what about an ethnic or
> > demographic or cultural or religious minority comprising less than 25% of
> > the voting populace? How, in a straight vote-from-scratch-on-everything
> > system, do we prevent the 75% majority from making, for instance, Wicca a
> > capital offense?
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> This is my problem with this proposal as well. I think you have to have
> basic rights that are much harder to revoke than just majority rule. I've
> said it before, unfetterered majority rule scares me.
Ancient Greece. Good example of the tyrany of the majority. I'm with you
on this one.
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> > > > > Me, I'd love to see a constitutional convention. We've never had one of
> > > > > those. It would give a chance for wholesale change to the constitution
> > > > > rather than one amendment at a time change.
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> > Sponsored, no doubt, by Texaco and Philip Morris.
And here I thought I was the resident political cynic...
:-)
Bruce
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Message has 2 Replies:
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| (...) In the "leave" sense not the "bolt action rifle" sense. If we get an actual majority to vote themselves bread and circuses in a fair and honest way, they are welcome to their little experiment, I'll vote with my feet. But what we have now, (...) (23 years ago, 23-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
| | | Re: National vote on handguns?
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| (...) "The Law" by Frederick Bastiat also covers some of this. For the full text of this AMAZINGLY concise and excellent work, see: (URL) I am sorry to go all "Scott Arthur" on y'all, but some of you really should read some of the primary texts (...) (23 years ago, 23-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) I support the process, but reserve the right to bolt if I don't like the outcome... (...) This is my problem with this proposal as well. I think you have to have basic rights that are much harder to revoke than just majority rule. I've said it (...) (23 years ago, 23-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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