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Subject: 
Re: Handgun Death Rate
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date: 
Fri, 20 Jul 2001 09:09:19 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Stephen Rusnak writes:
> "Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message
> news:GGqtL6.25y@lugnet.com...
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
> > 
> > > I'm sorry, perhaps I should be more specific: the would-be gun • owner needs
> > > to PASS a strict test in addition.  No, it won't be perfect - • nothing ever is.
> > 
> > I support the notion that people ought to be competent users of any • powerful
> > tool, especially one as powerful as a gun. However...
> > 
> > My objection to an apriori training requirement (rather than an • aposteriori
> > lawsuit for negligent behaviour) is a weak one, but it exists • nonetheless,
> > and is this.
> > 
> > We have the lesson in our recent past of literacy tests that any • white could
> > pass but even a college grad in english lit who happened to be black • could
> > not. Similarly, I fear the unscrupulous opponents of guns within the
> > government would use this mechanism to keep all from owning, or all • except
> > their cronies.
> > 
> > As an illustration of this I offer the factoid which I heard • somewhere (and
> > which may be false but I tend to doubt it) that says that machine • guns are
> > not outlawed per se, they just have been taxed (by the BATF, as it • happens)
> > to the point that civilians can no longer acquire new ones. This • passed
> > constitutional muster where banning them outright did not. (which • shows how
> > critical the need for clarity in parts of the constitution is)
> 
> With Fully Automatic firearms and other Class III weapons (Silenced
> weapons and sawed-off shotguns) are legal to own.  The only caveat is
> that when purchasing said weapon one must apply for a Class III tax
> stamp.  Said stamp costs $200.  You submit all of the appropriate
> paperwork, to the BATF I believe, wait about 90 days, pay the $200 and
> if everything goes right you will get an actual stamp (just like a
> postage stamp) from the BATF for that single weapon and can then go
> and pick said weapon up from the dealer.  You must do this and pay
> $200 for each Class III firearm you are purchasing and I believe the
> dealer must also have a special Class III  Dealer License.  You must
> also go through the same process to modify any of your own weapons to
> Class III status.
> 
> I have not yet gone through this myself, so I could have left
> something out.  I will be in a couple of months when I have the stock
> and barrel reduced by a gunsmith on my Double Barreled 12 gauge.

Why?

Scott A

> 
> --
> Overkill is the only sure kill.
> 
> SR



Message has 2 Replies:
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) You can negotiate tight situations, like twisty narrow hallways better with such a weapon. Why not? Chris (25 years ago, 20-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
<snip> (...) is (...) and (...) the (...) must (...) to (...) stock (...) Greater concealability, better maneuverability. Nothing says "You broke into the wrong house" like .00 buckshot to the chest. -- Overkill is the only sure kill. SR (25 years ago, 23-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:GGqtL6.25y@lugnet.com... (...) owner needs (...) nothing ever is. (...) powerful (...) aposteriori (...) nonetheless, (...) white could (...) could (...) except (...) somewhere (and (...) (25 years ago, 20-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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